Head gasket replacement on a 95' S500 ($2400 sound right?) - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Will_w202 · #16 02-26-2007, 11:37 AM

i'm more frustrated with the combination of the first 2 posts, and that is "you" in general, not you specifically that upset me. The "you's" who have older MBs and complain about maintenance, and that because a 90k car needs a 2k gasket after 12 years, that "MBs are crap after 5 years"

fpharryc · #17 02-26-2007, 01:02 PM

I agree, this is going to be personal.

"86560SEL", a guy only asks questions and talks. Drive a 380SE, but he does not want to maintain it at all.

All of "86560SEL" post repeated the same thing again, again, and again. I am very tired of this guy.

Let me lend your some cash, get your car done properly. Stop wasting your 380SE.

Hatterasguy · #18 02-26-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Will_w202

i'm more frustrated with the combination of the first 2 posts, and that is "you" in general, not you specifically that upset me. The "you's" who have older MBs and complain about maintenance, and that because a 90k car needs a 2k gasket after 12 years, that "MBs are crap after 5 years"

Yeah that drives me nuts to. I just point to a Ferrari, after 5 years you need to cough up $5k to have the T belts changed. I think the higher entry fee that Ferrari's command fix's that problem.

86560SEL · #19 02-27-2007, 08:32 AM

I am not sure who all "you's" you are referring to. I do not see anything wrong. I simply asked if $2400 seemed reasonable for a HG replacement on a 95 S500.

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Originally Posted by Will_w202

i'm more frustrated with the combination of the first 2 posts, and that is "you" in general, not you specifically that upset me. The "you's" who have older MBs and complain about maintenance, and that because a 90k car needs a 2k gasket after 12 years, that "MBs are crap after 5 years"

86560SEL · #20 02-27-2007, 08:34 AM

Oh really?

Whats going to be personal?

This has nothing to do with my car!

Yeah, do you need my address so you will know where to send the money?

Sorry you are tired of me. For someone with only 76 posts, you certainally have a lot to say.

Your reply was rude and very disturbing. I have done nothing to you. Why are you acting like this?

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Originally Posted by fpharryc

I agree, this is going to be personal.

"86560SEL", a guy only asks questions and talks. Drive a 380SE, but he does not want to maintain it at all.

All of "86560SEL" post repeated the same thing again, again, and again. I am very tired of this guy.

Let me lend your some cash, get your car done properly. Stop wasting your 380SE.

86560SEL · #21 02-27-2007, 09:09 PM

I see. I think it was someone after me that mentioned that "5 year crap thing, not me. I know that older MBs have high maintainence costs.. I was never complaining about that.

I think my original post was misread, because all I wanted to know is if $2400. seemed reasonable for this cars HG replacement and yes, they bought the car new in January of 1995. I did not know if they were giving my aunt the runaround- or if it was really like a $1500 repair, etc- or if $2400 was pushing it.

What was really disturbing and callious was the reply after yours. It was strange to say the least. Like someone with a very short temper. Lifes to short here on this earth to "get tired" of someones posts, like that person stated.

I am over it now... no hard feelings. Discussions like this are bound to happen in places like this.

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Originally Posted by Will_w202

i'm more frustrated with the combination of the first 2 posts, and that is "you" in general, not you specifically that upset me. The "you's" who have older MBs and complain about maintenance, and that because a 90k car needs a 2k gasket after 12 years, that "MBs are crap after 5 years"

#22 02-27-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fpharryc

I agree, this is going to be personal.

"86560SEL", a guy only asks questions and talks. Drive a 380SE, but he does not want to maintain it at all.

All of "86560SEL" post repeated the same thing again, again, and again. I am very tired of this guy.

Let me lend your some cash, get your car done properly. Stop wasting your 380SE.

I am very tired of people who think they have the right to be condescending to others, this isn't the first time a similar comment has been made by the same person towards "86560sel".

hk20000 · #23 02-27-2007, 10:17 PM

^ that seems to be directed to him not me, though.

No it's not about me, it's not about my preference, I'm telling you the way I see it and the way the world outside of this forum works - from my point of view: an S class depreciate so much faster than more sensible Mercs like E and C class... yet they have a lot of things that are about to go wrong at this time. Taking that into account by the time 2400 is dropped into the sink the S will break somewhere else.

At public auction you can see A LOT of S classes, 7 series and Jaguar XJs because these over-the-top creations are good for .... well you guessed it the first 5 years. People who are rich enough to want one won't want one used, those who have a new one has no intention to maintain the car they are going to sell to the used car lot 5 years down the road. Sounds tragic but that's how the richer people think - shame that the S class won't get the care they'd give to a Maserati Quattroporte. You will be much harder pressed to find a well maintained S than a well maintained E or C. The fact that your aunt has driven the car overheated (assuming so) until it wouldn't move I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit.

Besides, think of it this way, if you have the engine broken open, by you or by a MB mech (I hope not), a lot of parts will inevitably need replaced -

valve cover gasket
cam seal
valve seal
head gasket
sparkplugs

then as a MB nut (or general car nut) you'd want to:

deck out the block and the head for perfect adhesion of HG
adjust the valves
change valve seals

it all adds up. If you are talking about Mercedes dealer doing your engine I would bet on Schumi coming back out for F1 for 2007 than to bet your engine actually come back out of the dealer anywhere near 2400+ tax.

you don't have to agree on me. But it'd be bad if anyone suggested he go for it, paid like 5000 bux for the hg job, and then a year later the piston rings bite the dust....or the transmission just leave this guy sitting in the middle of the intersection.

2400 on a 14000 car.....I have tried that too many times. Don't do it.

arew264 · #24 02-27-2007, 10:42 PM

Okay people, I am new here but I have been on a LOT of forums before and I can see what will happen here because it happens everywhere.

The guy wants to know if the cost is reasonable. IS IT?
Answer the question and move on. He didn't ask for people to point fingers at him and others. He didn't ask for all your opinions on how good Benzes are and whether you think they're worth the costs, he asked whether the cost was reasonable.

The point is that the guy who started this thread did NOT ask all of you to come and insult him and eachother, he asked a question. If you wan't to insult eachother and debate whether a Benz is worth the maintenance costs, there is a create new thread button that lets to argue about it all you want, and no one will stop you.

Hatterasguy · #25 02-27-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 86560SEL

Oh really?

Whats going to be personal?

This has nothing to do with my car!

Yeah, do you need my address so you will know where to send the money?

Sorry you are tired of me. For someone with only 76 posts, you certainally have a lot to say.

Your reply was rude and very disturbing. I have done nothing to you. Why are you acting like this?

If you want to click the report post button, the mods will deal with it. I am not in charge of this forum, and therefor cannot do anything about this. But you most certainly can, because a forum rule about no personal attacks has been clearly violated.

Hirnbeiss · #26 02-28-2007, 06:07 AM

Book time is about 24 hours for both heads. Yours is probably around that, could be a little more.

slk230red · #27 02-28-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hirnbeiss

Book time is about 24 hours for both heads. Yours is probably around that, could be a little more.

Just think how polite this thread would have been if you had been the first to reply.
Good information, Hirnbeiss. I hate pulling heads, but I always remove my own because I usually find other things to replace or do while I have the head off.

STORMINORMAN · #28 02-28-2007, 01:22 PM

I kinda' like the fact that my W126 S-class's are pretty much done depreciating...

I'm not convinced that EVERY 1992 & up S-class has been ignored maintenance-wise, but there surely are more than a few out there where the repairs or scheduled services have been neglected once the car was out of warranty.

On the other hand I have heard of W140 cars that were for all intents and purposes permanently parked by their original owner when, the 1st time they went into a Dealership after the warranty expired, an "estimate" for some needed repairs or service was presented... Driving in and having that little "problem with the Merc" taken care of under warranty and looking at a $4K tab to have the air conditioner worked on are concepts from two different galaxies for even some of the "rich". I imagine that a $2.5 to ?K head gasket might occasionally have the same result.

People with a lot of dough either got it the "old fashoned way" (they inherited it!) or they actually earned it! Neither condition has to include the propensity to "Just pay the man, Dear!".

Cheers!

p.s. I KNOW what my reaction would be if my 1st (& current) wife were to sashay in one evening and announce she had just Mastercharged a $3,000 repair bill because they "told" her it was needed.

Ouch!

brewtoo · #29 02-28-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hk20000

errr yeah sell the car. There's a saying: Benz are good for 5 years tops. For cars made between 1991 and 1997 I think that saying is very true.

Well, I don't know. I have a '91 300E and it is identical to my '90 300E for all practical purposes.

So should I rush to sell the '91 to some sucker before it's too late??

STORMINORMAN · #30 02-28-2007, 01:34 PM

What's wrong with a '91 W126, anyway? Everyone just KNOWS they are the best made Benz ever, right?

Cheers!