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Old 03-20-2007, 10:19 AM
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Euro 123 wagon photo request...

Hey, I need someone to post a picture or explain how the reverse/fog assemblies are mounted to a euro wagon rear bumper. The one on mine is missing the units and we might convert the new wagon to euro bumpers, but it looks to me the mounting holes are different.

Do they use the same housings as the US spec models and some type of adapter to mount to the holes on each side of the opening in the bumper or.... ????

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Old 03-20-2007, 02:16 PM
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Yours has two backup lights.

On Euro models, there is one backup light and one rear foglight in the same locations.

Just a red lens and different wiring.

Fog light is on side of car toward center of road, i.e. on left in left-hand-drive countries.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:37 PM
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Sorry let me clarify a bit, I already understand how the reverse-fog light assignment works. On a US spec bumper the reverse assemblies have a bolt in the center that lets you mount it in the according hole in the bumper. The euro bumper is different, there is no hole in the center for the housing to mount to. There are only two holes, one on each side of the opening on the bottommost side of the bumper, at least on my euro wagon there is. I don't know if there were other versions or not.

To me it seems like some type of adapter bracket is needed to make the larger housings fit accordingly to the bumper. Thats what I've trying to find out, since my wagon was missing both housings when I bought it.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:22 PM
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general note, euro and US rev lights and rear fog lights are different sizes and the lenses will not interchange.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:11 PM
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a-ha! thats what I needed to know! Any chance you might know part numbers for what I'm missing? Our parts guys don't have a clue how to look up stuff for euro spec vehicles.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:35 PM
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i have it at work, i will send the part numbers tomorrow,
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1979 300SD
1983 300 SD
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1986 500 SEL euro
1986 190E 2.3
1990 300 SE
2003 C230 K
2004 C230 K
1987 560SEL
1987 300SDL now in canada
2005 C230
1998 C43 AMG Sold to DON
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:17 AM
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euro rev assy
123-820-19-56
euro red fog assy
123-820-18-56

clear lens
123-826-33-90
red lens
123-826-32-90
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1967 280SE
1968 250S
1971 280 SE
1973 220
1974 280 S
1975 450 SEL
1976 220 D
1979 300SD
1983 300 SD
1985 230 TE euro
1986 280SL
1986 500 SEL euro
1986 190E 2.3
1990 300 SE
2003 C230 K
2004 C230 K
1987 560SEL
1987 300SDL now in canada
2005 C230
1998 C43 AMG Sold to DON
1993 190E 2.6
300TD Former daily driver Totaled
current:
R320 CDI
Ram 2500 Cummins
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:03 PM
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much appreciated, thanks!

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1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

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