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BillyMac · #1 07-12-2007, 03:26 PM

new as so i thought. 90,190E, 103

Hello members, this method is not working something i need to know did i miss some-thing black cover seems to be in the way of removing tumbler. the wire method with ends at 70° key at one

Regards: BillyMac

MB-Dude · #2 07-12-2007, 10:52 PM

Can you describe your problem with a little more detail? I'm not sure I know what you are asking about.

BillyMac · #3 07-13-2007, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB-Dude

Can you describe your problem with a little more detail? I'm not sure I know what you are asking about.

remove cover,insert key turn one click to the left, insert wire tool in holes to release tumbler pull out tumbler. only this is not working for me? seems black cover is holding tumbler from being removed.?

BillyMac

MB-Dude · #4 07-13-2007, 08:46 AM

I'm assuming you are talking about the key tumbler in the ignition switch. Hmmmm.... I'm not familiar with a '90 190E, but I have taken the tumbler out of a '79 240D. You do need to make sure the wire is quite stiff, so as not to bend or flex inside the tumbler. I used a very Jeweler's Screwdriver. Once you insert the key, ensure you push hard on the wire as the locking mechanism may be sticky. You have to push the wire, jiggle the key, and pull the tumbler all at the same time. Once the tumbler started to come out, it easily slid out. The tough part was overcoming the internal lock. Perhaps the black cover you see is not stopping the tumbler, because you are not pushing hard enough on the wire.

BillyMac · #5 07-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB-Dude

I'm assuming you are talking about the key tumbler in the ignition switch. Hmmmm.... I'm not familiar with a '90 190E, but I have taken the tumbler out of a '79 240D. You do need to make sure the wire is quite stiff, so as not to bend or flex inside the tumbler. I used a very Jeweler's Screwdriver. Once you insert the key, ensure you push hard on the wire as the locking mechanism may be sticky. You have to push the wire, jiggle the key, and pull the tumbler all at the same time. Once the tumbler started to come out, it easily slid out. The tough part was overcoming the internal lock. Perhaps the black cover you see is not stopping the tumbler, because you are not pushing hard enough on the wire.

Yes, Mr.Dude key tumbler using .02mm wire tool that is not bending can feel it pushing down tumbler retainers when inserted (if their called that) in any event shouldn't just the tumbler come out through center of the black outer cover or does the cover and tumbler come out as one piece?

BillyMac

MB-Dude · #6 07-13-2007, 03:12 PM

In the back of my mind, I seem to recall (very vaguely) that there is a black cover that threads onto the ignition switch. I think (boy, this is really going back many years) it was in an early 300E. Anyway, if the cover you have is what I am thinking of, you should be able to spin the black cover off by spinning the cover counter-clockwise. The cover I'm thinking off has threads that mate to the body of the ignition switch.

I'm not sure if this is your problem, and hopefully someone else can chime in, but this is the best I can come up with.

BillyMac · #7 07-13-2007, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB-Dude

In the back of my mind, I seem to recall (very vaguely) that there is a black cover that threads onto the ignition switch. I think (boy, this is really going back many years) it was in an early 300E. Anyway, if the cover you have is what I am thinking of, you should be able to spin the black cover off by spinning the cover counter-clockwise. The cover I'm thinking off has threads that mate to the body of the ignition switch.

I'm not sure if this is your problem, and hopefully someone else can chime in, but this is the best I can come up with.

It would be a shame to junk the car over this tumbler thing.

Mike Murrell · #8 07-13-2007, 04:01 PM

http://www.baumtools.com/mercedes_cat.pdf

900-0059K - dashboard service tool kit

126-0714 - ignition lock cover remover

BillyMac · #9 07-13-2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Murrell

http://www.baumtools.com/mercedes_cat.pdf

900-0059K - dashboard service tool kit

126-0714 - ignition lock cover remover

Thank you mike, But don't need any tools have them already

BillyMac

TMAllison · #10 07-13-2007, 04:41 PM

This one ought to be similar...http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W201IgnitionSwitch

BillyMac · #11 07-13-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TMAllison

This one ought to be similar...http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W201IgnitionSwitch

In picture 5 of this link do you know if the black cover around the tumbler comes out with tumbler or not.

BillyMac

BillyMac · #12 07-16-2007, 01:35 PM

Any One.. Know...?

BillyMac

Ferdman · #13 07-16-2007, 03:30 PM

BillyMac, the black barrel comes out with the ignition cylinder. It's tricky to get the release tool/wire to work ... be patient and keep trying.

BillyMac · #14 07-17-2007, 11:41 PM

Thank's still No Luck, Junked It...Bought New KiA, Thank's For All the Help Pros...

brewtoo · #15 07-18-2007, 12:23 AM

You can't be serious. If you couldn't remove the black metal cover over the cylinder, why didn't you just have a professional do it? Are you going to just leave it sitting in the yard?

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