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Old 10-31-2007, 05:20 PM
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Bora Scope

On my search to get off wheel locks
came upon a reference to a
bora scope

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/goss/20015.shtml

Seems it is a micro camera unit that can look inside the engine wo taking it apart.

If someone had access to it
why couldn;t they go in thru the oil filler hole & look at the chain & guiderails at least to see the color & avoid taking off the valve cover?

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Old 10-31-2007, 08:53 PM
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The images I've seen on a bora scope all look like the surface of the moon, doesn't matter what you're looking at, it looks like the same moonshot, very hard to diagnose anything. Maybe they are getting better.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:04 PM
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Too bad
guess they have those things for medical surgery
but I suppose cost is involved
Heck costs of mechanics are getting close to DR's
so maybe they should het some good hi tech
non invasive equipment....
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I think Mr Goss misspelled bore scope. So spelling is just another thing he is not good at. As far as that kind of product look here:

http://www.provision100.com/products_b.html

I think the one he showed is the Elite model. I have the PV-100 which I got a couple of years ago and I think it was 269.00. Probably less now. The picture quality is not bad but not great either. The right angle mirror is a good accessory as is the bright bulb.

As far as your question, I tried that exact thing on my Toyota but was blocked immediately by the baffles in the pan.

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Old 11-01-2007, 12:47 AM
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OOOh bore

Well as long as he knows what he's doing
I have known attorneys who couldn;t spell too...



Guess they are not $ for a good shop

I was hoping to find a way to the chain guiderail area
looks like there is clearance but maybe not
Just was thinking..guess I;ll wait for the rattle
Too bad

Had to hire a plumber with one once.



Main drain was clogged
20 residents without facilities
Had to institute showering on a odd even hour schedule to moderate the volume of waste
LOL
so we had to open the line in the garage as it was backing up into the first floor!



OOOH yeah raw sewerage for a few days.

Nice job I got...


Went thru a foot of concrete in a spot then dug down abother few feet
half days labor
No luck
Nope, not there

Put a scope down the pipes & followed it to the obstruction
Tree Root!
estimated location right near the city line but not close enough so it was the owners problem
but at least it was found without digging up the whole front..

Really is a good thing to invest in if you have a shop.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:10 AM
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It takes around 1/2 an hour to pull both valve covers, and then the rails, sprokets, and chain can be inspected. I can tell you that even if the chain is tight and the rails look good, they(the rails) can still fail. The best thing to do is replace the rails every 80k to 100k.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:15 AM
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It takes around 1/2 an hour to pull both valve covers, and then the rails, sprokets, and chain can be inspected. I can tell you that even if the chain is tight and the rails look good, they(the rails) can still fail. The best thing to do is replace the rails every 80k to 100k.
Only problem is
i have no records of when & if it was changed.
it has 196K

My mechanic says to just wait for the rattlle
Guess its not only the time
but the possiblity they don't get the covers on sucessfully then it leaks
& it has to be done again.

I;d pay the hour hour half labor
be worth it to me I think?

Just feels like russian roulette
but I really don't have copiuos amounts of extra cash to throw at it

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Old 11-01-2007, 01:34 PM
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A good borescope can save tons of time and lots of money. The one I use cost ~$3000, and it's been worth every penny. It's an articulating type in which the business end can be inserted into a cylinder bore, or other small space, and then turn one hundred and eighty degrees and look directly back in the direction it came from. I've diagnosed scored cylinder walls, carbon build-up issues, bent valves, and blown head gaskets in a fraction of the time it would take to disassemble and inspect. I've also used it to inspect heater cores and evaporators. It's nice to be able to give a client an accurate estimate without gutting half the car! I've even used it to diagnose a few hard to find interior water leaks. We've had it for almost two years and I sometimes ask myself how we ever got by without it.
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WOW, Good for you & your customers!

Guess it would be best to go to a shop with one before you let someone tear into your engine...


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