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Old 03-05-2008, 03:27 PM
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* Chas H is correct. With heat, the aluminum hole will present a slightly looser fit, not a tighter fit. That's why you apply heat (torch) around a threaded hole to work a seized stud/bolt out of it.
* The problem with replacing plugs in a hot alloy head is more of a caution than a problem. It's more likely to damage cyl head threads with overtorqueing when the threads are hot. Overtorqueing is still a problem cold but the threads are less likely to damage.
* Needless to say, the best way to tighten plugs is with a torque wrench. And the most accurate torque wrench scale in this case would be an inch-pound scale (where 18 ft-lbs would, for example, be 216 inch-lbs).
* But if you don't own an in-lb, or even ft-lb, torque wrench, work with a cold engine, put a drop or two motor oil on the plug threads and tighten the plug until you feel the crush-ring (if the plug has one) collapse. If the plug just has a tapered seat (and no crush ring), and you don't have a torque wrench, you'll just have to approximate it and tighten it until it feels gas-tight. Unfortunately, leaving a plug too loose causes a another, different set of problems.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:29 PM
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spark plug broken

Hey guys.
I got the spark plug out with a #6 ez-out.
The advantage I had was the plug sheared off just below the nut, so the whole core and electrode came out in one piece. No need to drill.
I treated the "thread body" with penetrating fluid, tapped the ez-out lightly with a hammer to get it to bite and then gently used a 1/2 inch drive breaker bar to crack it loose.
Worked slick.
Went from a $1400 head removal estimate down to $8.95 and some hair loss. Whew!
Again thanks to all who offered their help.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:22 PM
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NEVER NEVER EVER REMOVE ON A HOT ENGINE.

You most likely have an aluminium head which expandes with heat and will vise up on the plug. If you think a broken plug is bad try bringing the plug out only to find that it brought the head threads with it. You should never remove any bolt from a hot aluminum block or head. It be very bad.
The hole for the spark increases in size when hot. I have no idea where you got the information it decreases, but it's wrong.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:26 PM
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The hole for the spark increases in size when hot. I have no idea where you got the information it decreases, but it's wrong.
Every machine shop guy and tech I have ever talked to including my father who has 35 years experience as a mechanic. Heat up some aluminum and tell me if it doesn't expand. Since it expands (swells) it will constrict inside a hole.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:40 PM
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Every machine shop guy and tech I have ever talked to including my father who has 35 years experience as a mechanic. Heat up some aluminum and tell me if it doesn't expand. Since it expands (swells) it will constrict inside a hole.
I have more than 35 years experience and aluminum does expand when heated. Aluminum housing are heated when bearings are pressed in or out. Sometimes a manufacturer specifies heating the head to remove or install valve guides. Your information is incorrect.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:33 AM
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I'm glad it worked out well!
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