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Old 10-09-2008, 10:01 AM
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No reverse 1995 E320 & a "lifter noise?"

I bought a 1995 320 about two years ago and things appeared fine. It would give me a "positive" shift some of the time and occasionally flare going into 3rd or 4th. Well, it suddenly quit moving in forward one day. This lasted a few minutes and then it worked fine for about a week and I discovered that it would not work in reverse. It just revs with no movement. I've read about the reverse clutch pack problems and possible B2 or B3 valve body problems associated with this transmission.
Does anyone have any ideas about what the real problem is or what I should do? I am considering getting a rebuilt from Sun Valley. Anyone with recent experience with them?
Thanks for your help.
Oh, I also have a lifter noise that is starting to manifest itself near the front of the engine. I'm familiar with hydraulic lifters but the ones I've seen as replacement parts seem much shorter than the "good ole US types". Do the lifters usually fail and need to be replaced or could this be something else?

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Old 10-10-2008, 06:56 AM
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How are your ATF and oil levels?
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:59 AM
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I changed the filter and ATF after the "no reverse" problem appeared and it still doesn't move in reverse. It still moves forward but I have not driven it much because I'm afraid it may stop moving again.
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:14 AM
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Just went thru a very similar problem on my '96 E300 and it turned-out to be a fragmented B3 band on my 722.3 tranny. Had to have it completely rebuilt including the torque converter.
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:59 AM
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Yeah....., I really expect to have to buy and install a rebuilt. Anyone have any suggestions as to who to buy a rebuilt tranny from based on their experience?
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:00 PM
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Oh, I also have a lifter noise that is starting to manifest itself near the front of the engine. I'm familiar with hydraulic lifters but the ones I've seen as replacement parts seem much shorter than the "good ole US types". Do the lifters usually fail and need to be replaced or could this be something else?
I have had GREAT success with a product called RISLONE. I have used it on a '94 E320 I had with the same problem. I have used it on many german engines with Hydraulic lifters with 100% success.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:22 PM
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RWOGS: I found that it was much less expensive and less of a hassle to have my own tranny rebuilt by a local shop! I stayed-away from the franchise chains and found a local independent who did a great job at a very reasonable cost!
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:36 PM
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I have had GREAT success with a product called RISLONE. I have used it on a '94 E320 I had with the same problem. I have used it on many german engines with Hydraulic lifters with 100% success.
WOW, I haven't heard that name for some time. Thanks, I may try that. I want to take it through emissions first, but I may try that afterward. It really does sound like a sticky lifter. Thanks!!
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:39 PM
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RWOGS: I found that it was much less expensive and less of a hassle to have my own tranny rebuilt by a local shop! I stayed-away from the franchise chains and found a local independent who did a great job at a very reasonable cost!
I have considered that too and been in contact with a reputable tranny shop but they are only open weekdays and it is hard to schedule when I'm going to drive straight in and have them look at it. Do you have a feeling about a reasonable charge for a local rebuild?
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I'd budget between $1800 and $2500 based on where you live. You can save a few hundred dollars if you pull/install the tranny yourself.
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:18 PM
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sounds like the tranny needs rebuilt

same thing happened to me, exactly, no reverse all of a sudden after months of warning in forward gears, a lurching feeling while stopped. Cost me $1400 in New Mexico for a rebuild and they did an excellent job, absolutely excellent, but it took them a whole week...other than that, no problem, and that was 30K miles ago.clutch packs were burnt they said
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:57 AM
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I used to have the same transmission issue on my W201 and ended to be a clogged filter.
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Old 10-17-2008, 12:03 PM
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same thing happened to me, exactly, no reverse all of a sudden after months of warning in forward gears, a lurching feeling while stopped. Cost me $1400 in New Mexico for a rebuild and they did an excellent job, absolutely excellent, but it took them a whole week...other than that, no problem, and that was 30K miles ago.clutch packs were burnt they said
That sound exactly like my experience! I should add that before it completely stopped moving in reverse, it acted like the rear brakes were on...when I gave it gas, it felt like it wanted to move but was locked up.. the rear end even raised slightly.. but I know the brakes were not locked or dragging..after that it just "whirrrred" and did not move.
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Old 10-18-2008, 01:34 PM
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wow, that's weird. My 124 has a 3 second delay going into reverse, sure sign of future doom, but like all the other ones I've read about in that it's a gradual failure. Yours failed with no warning and no prior delays or slippage? Weird.
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Old 10-18-2008, 01:52 PM
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wow, that's weird. My 124 has a 3 second delay going into reverse, sure sign of future doom, but like all the other ones I've read about in that it's a gradual failure. Yours failed with no warning and no prior delays or slippage? Weird.
My 300sd did that reverse-gear delay from the day I bought it with 128k miles on it, to the day I sold it with 325k miles on it. It also did the hard 1-2 shift.

Both of these things, people start griping about certain death for the transmission, but that's not really true. A lot of cars show those characteristics and never have a problem.

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