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Old 10-16-2008, 05:41 PM
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91 300se runs rough and slugish

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Hard to start. When idling at times economy gauge is 1/4 way down. Feels like a miss Have to feather the gas, when I push the gas pedal seems to bog down then it clears up and finally goes also happens up to 45mph I think. Trying seafoam
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Cap, Rotor, Wires, Fuelfilter
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:00 PM
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Vacuum leak?
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Old 10-16-2008, 07:26 PM
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plugs?

I notice you didn't mention spark plugs...my 1990 300TE was acting stupid
as well, stalling, hard restart, shakey idle. Ends up it was the coolant temp sensor and a new set of Bosch Copper Plus plugs...runs like a champ now. Just my experience though...could be something else
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:25 PM
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You have a vac leak for sure, you must replace all the junk rubber under the hood PRIOR to attempting to adjust the CIS properly. This includes ANY and ALL oil leaks as these also are vac leaks... the oil dipstick tube is included.

How old is the O2 sensor?

Verify the plugs are proper, should be BP5EFS from NGK OR H9DC from Bosch. NO resistor plugs.
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Did plugs,I think Bosch plat"s. There are some oil leaks. How should I check for vac leaks? Sometimes it idles godd but other times its bad Thanks for the info so far ,Gary
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Did plugs,I think Bosch plat"s. There are some oil leaks. How should I check for vac leaks? Sometimes it idles godd but other times its bad Thanks for the info so far ,Gary


Wrong plugs.

Just replace all the rubber there, I can almost assure you it's all dead. Cost is only about $120 in parts at the very most
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Do I need to get the hard plastic or can I go rubber to rubber. What plugs?
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Do I need to get the hard plastic or can I go rubber to rubber. What plugs?
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Verify the plugs are proper, should be BP5EFS from NGK OR H9DC from Bosch. NO resistor plugs.



The stuff that's hard now will include (but not limited to):

Breather hoses
Vacuum lines
Y and X connectors
Idle control hoses
Injector seals/orings
Valve cover gasket
Oil filler cap oring
Dipstick seal
Upper timing cover seal



It's not HARD, just takes a good bit of time to clean all the crap off to reseal.

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