Are w124 injectors DIY'able? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

ps2cho · #1 02-07-2009, 08:19 PM

I had one replaced by a local mechanic...but I think now after him telling me one of them was leaking...I kinda wanna get them all done for good measure in the attempt to fix my terrible mpg and performance.

I looked in the Mercedes CD for a PDF on it...but couldn't find any?? Did the original CD not come with injector replacement instructions?

Is it DIY'able? The indy that replaced mine said they can be screwed up if not done correctly....

Any other place with instructions? Or did I miss it on the CD?

glenmore · #2 02-07-2009, 09:12 PM

I did 5 of the 6 on my M104 engine and it is was routine. To get to the last one in the middle, IIRC, I need to remove some air hoses and I want to be ready with replacement parts in case the hoses disintegrate. If your M103 uses seals and insulators, you'll need those too. These things are not cheap and it may be an expensive way to hunt down a misfire.

glenmore
1991 300CE
2000 C280

deanyel · #3 02-07-2009, 09:16 PM

124 is a chassis which has many different motors and types of injectors. But assuming you're asking about 103 motor injectors, yes they are quite easy, and also quite cheap.

http://mb.auto.pl/wis/w124/CD01/Engine/103/07.3-6520.pdf

ps2cho · #4 02-08-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by glenmore

I did 5 of the 6 on my M104 engine and it is was routine. To get to the last one in the middle, IIRC, I need to remove some air hoses and I want to be ready with replacement parts in case the hoses disintegrate. If your M103 uses seals and insulators, you'll need those too. These things are not cheap and it may be an expensive way to hunt down a misfire.

glenmore
1991 300CE
2000 C280

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanyel

124 is a chassis which has many different motors and types of injectors. But assuming you're asking about 103 motor injectors, yes they are quite easy, and also quite cheap.

http://mb.auto.pl/wis/w124/CD01/Engine/103/07.3-6520.pdf

Thanks guys. Sorry I have a habit of using w124 too much...gotta stop that!
I saved that PDF....Not sure why I can't find it off my MB CD

Can someone tell me if the 3L M103 engine requires insulators? I know it uses a seal.

I'm not worried about the cost...because once they are done, I will be covered for a long time on them. I have been saving alot of money and unfortunately as far as I know...there is no way to directly "test" the injectors other than pulling them out. If I am going to have to take them out....I might as well replace them.

That PDF does not mention Insulators...so I assume it does NOT need any...but can someone confirm that for me please?

glenmore · #5 02-08-2009, 01:47 AM

Parts sites like Fastlane or ********AZ have the engine serial number ranges for the different parts but it still may require you to take one out for a look see to confirm.

glenmore
1991 300CE
2000 C280

ps2cho · #6 02-08-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by glenmore

Parts sites like Fastlane or ********AZ have the engine serial number ranges for the different parts but it still may require you to take one out for a look see to confirm.

glenmore
1991 300CE
2000 C280

I also checked A/H AZ and it only mentions a seal too...but do sell an insulator as well so I still would like to double check. Looks like it is $150 in parts for the injectors + seals.

pawoSD · #7 02-08-2009, 03:03 AM

I haven't done it (yet) but it looks to be almost as easy as swapping diesel injectors....just more smelly. (I hate gas smell, its horrid....)

deanyel · #8 02-08-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ps2cho

Not sure why I can't find it off my MB CD

CD 1 / Model / Engine / Mechanical & Combustion / 7.3 / 6520

lkchris · #9 02-08-2009, 12:20 PM

Yes, they are DIYable, but you need line (flarenut) wrenches for sure.

You also need hex or torx (depends) drivers.

DIY without proper tools is dumb. All you can save on is labor--you still need the same tools the pros use, or you'll tear stuff up.

Access is limited on some injectors and removal of fuel lines is required. In addition, same limited access increases liklihood of stipping out allen socket on holddown screws.

There are insulater plus seal on the M103 engine that's in your '88.

I think L-Jetronic better than K-Jetronic, but the latter's injectors sure are cheap in comparison.

There's really no need for intructions, as it's simply unfasten/refasten. Don't bend the lines and don't overtighten them.

The instruction on your CD is 07.3-6520, "Removing and Installing Injection Valves."

ps2cho · #10 02-08-2009, 12:36 PM

Could the insulators be used from the current injectors or do they have to be replaced? Any possible consequences to using the current ones if they don't have to be replaced?

I have all those tools so I should be fine.

OliverVB · #11 02-08-2009, 05:45 PM

Did this job last year on my '90 2.6 M103 engine. Pretty simple. Only a little to remove for access. I did not replace the insulators on mine (at 100+K miles) and have not had a problem. The older mechanical style injectors do wear and will leak after a time. Mine had evidently been doing so after engine shut down. When I replaced all 6, under two of them (4&5) there was a wetness in the manifold after removing the injectors. Cured the slight, stumbling, rich-flooded re-start I was experiencing after an hour to a day or so of standing.

Bob Weir · #12 02-08-2009, 08:38 PM

A less expensive route is to send them to http://www.cruzinperformance.com/

They'll clean, test, replace seals and provide a flow test report. Call Rich at (231) 796-5705 to confirm scheduling and have questions answered. I've used him 2 times and always been satisfied.

deanyel · #13 02-08-2009, 09:18 PM

You wouldn't want to send out CIS injectors to be cleaned and rebuilt - it's just too cheap to replace them.

pawoSD · #14 02-09-2009, 12:29 AM

I might replace them on ours this summer if I have the $$ to do so. Ours does the stumbly startup sometimes too. (not often though)

glenmore · #15 02-09-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ps2cho

Could the insulators be used from the current injectors or do they have to be replaced? Any possible consequences to using the current ones if they don't have to be replaced?

I have all those tools so I should be fine.

When I changed mine out, I could have reused the old insulators. There was no damage or wear in the plastic other than being discolored. IIRC there is an "O" ring there that should be renewed.

glenmore
1991 300CE
2000 C280