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You need to do a check of your system pressures. Could be that the freon has leaked out enough that the pressure is too low and the compressor won't engage.
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Thanks for the advice regarding the different options. It appears that I will have to upgrade to R134A since Canada's regulations are a bit different compared to the US. Hopefully, the system will cool better than now. Since summer is not as intense up here, I'm hoping that an R134A conversion brings good performance. There is one product that is sold legally here under the name Red Tek 12A that is supposed to work as well as R12. Has anyone heard of it?
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R12 is the way to go! It will work 10X better than R134a. You can kinda/sorta make 134 work almost as well as R12 by adding extra electric fans, a bigger evap, etc., but why bother? Just go with the R12. It is more money, but it's worth it. If you don't go with R12, try Freeze12 (you can buy it online). But don't go with 134a. |
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Freeze12 is diluted r134
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I've been using hydrocarbon based refrigerants for years, Dura-cool, enviro-safe etc. and have been very pleased. I never heard of using R290 before. Do you buy it the same way I do for my home barbeque, by the 20 lb. cylinder? If so what kind of hookup did you use to go from the 20 lb. cylinder to your gauge/charging set? I'd love to know. One of the vehicles I changed over was my 94 Chrysler which came from the factory with r134a. Performance was marginal until I charged it with Dura-cool, now if blows at 36 degrees!
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But in my observation (in original R12 systems in the W126's) Freeze 12 works about 75% as good as R12 while R134a by itself only works about 50% as good as R12. Neither is as good as the real thing, but Freeze 12 (must be whatever difference the 142b makes) is still a lot better than putting in 134a by itself. |
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The bottom line is that it's cheap and works really well, even improving the AC in my Chrysler that came from the factory with R134a. Vent temp with R134a was high 40s to low 50s, now it's mid to high 30s.
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one more thing that you guys should all realize.the evaps in 126 cars had a certain amount of epoxy on the u tubes at the ends and 134 molecules being smaller than r12 has managed to find small enough holes and then create bigger ones as the epoxy gives up.in short unless your 126 has had the evaporator replaced[or 124's]put freeze 12 in at your peril or at least plan on replacing the evaporator.[same goes for 134 conversions]
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I have found that A/C performance is not as bad as I once thought. At highway speeds it is ice cold with an outside temperature of 90F. In the city and at lower speeds the performance seems to be not as good and it is noticeably less cold. Should I always be hearing the fans kick in when I turn the A/C? At times I hear the roar of the fans when accelerating but at other times I don't hear anything. At idle if I turn the A/C on I hear the A/C compressor engage but I usually don't hear any fans kick in. Is it possible that the fan and switch are not functioning correctly? I'm also considering cleaning the front condensor to see if that helps performance at lower speeds. |
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If you have high ambient temps and no low fan at idle/traffic conditions, then you have to check the low fan circuit by jumping the high pressure switch at the drier..if Yes w/jumper, then the suspect is slightly low refrigerant.
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