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05-20-2009, 09:25 PM
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HELP!!! 450 SEL won't move!
I was driving to the bank, and for some odd reason, my 1-2 shift got nice and normal, then rounding a corner, it downshifted to first like it should, then when it was time to up shift it revved to the top and that was it. No reverse, no forward gears, not even a park engagement. Flexdisks are ok, and fluid level is good and fluid is nice and red and smells fresh.
Torque converter? There's also a grumbling sound now that was not there prior to the flare. I don't even have the car paid for yet  EDIT: I did drive thru a huge puddle minutes before this happened.
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RIP: 80 300SD RIP: 79 450SEL 2002 E430 4matic (212,000km) 2002 ML500 'sport'  ____________________________ FACEBOOK: PANZER450 Last edited by PanzerSD; 05-20-2009 at 09:48 PM. 
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05-20-2009, 10:18 PM
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Maybe the flex plate between the motor and torque converter??
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-  '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
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#3
05-20-2009, 11:17 PM
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Wow, the park pawl won't even engage??
Did the linkage fall off and leave you in neutral?? (Yes, I know that is a ludicrous suggestion, but......)
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05-20-2009, 11:38 PM
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05-20-2009, 11:44 PM
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I'm assuming that the parking pawl didn't engage because I was just rolling forward in park VERY slowly as i came to a stop. with engine still running. i'll have to give it a shove in park to see.
First thing I checked was the flex discs, because of the new noise. but yeah, I shut it off while I panicked for a few minutes and started it back up and still nothing.
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RIP: 80 300SD RIP: 79 450SEL 2002 E430 4matic (212,000km) 2002 ML500 'sport' ____________________________ FACEBOOK: PANZER450
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05-20-2009, 11:47 PM
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is there anything inside the tail half of the transmission that could break free and allow the transmission to operate but not transmit the power to the output shaft? I had no slip issues, but had been battling hard long shifts with no change in modulation adjustments.
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RIP: 80 300SD RIP: 79 450SEL 2002 E430 4matic (212,000km) 2002 ML500 'sport' ____________________________ FACEBOOK: PANZER450
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05-20-2009, 11:47 PM
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that Diesel engine is starting to look really good.
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RIP: 80 300SD RIP: 79 450SEL 2002 E430 4matic (212,000km) 2002 ML500 'sport' ____________________________ FACEBOOK: PANZER450
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05-21-2009, 12:08 AM
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Does the shifter feel normal? I would check the shifter linkages....and anything else possible to search for a cause.
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
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05-21-2009, 12:27 AM
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RIP: 80 300SD RIP: 79 450SEL 2002 E430 4matic (212,000km) 2002 ML500 'sport' ____________________________ FACEBOOK: PANZER450
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