BREMI distributor cap and rotor - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

pesuazo · #1 07-21-2009, 09:26 PM

I know Bremi makes a lot of parts for BMW, but I have never seen any for a Mercedes.

Has anyone used BREMI distributor cap and rotors?

Have they been good and reliable on a MB?

I can get a set of 2 distributor caps and rotors for my 94 E420 for a very good price, but I want to ask if anyone have used them (before I buy)

Ivanerrol · #2 07-22-2009, 12:35 AM

I have used Bremi before.

You must be careful about buying cheap Bosch and Bremi ignition parts. There is a thriving industry in the same factories that are turning out erzatz Louis Vuitton

Even with the genuine article the quality doesn't seem to be the same as :
I.M.H.O. stick to Beru.

pawoSD · #3 07-22-2009, 01:14 AM

I had the resistance spec and rotor tip of a Bosch fail after only 5-6 months/6k or so on my 300E.......it was reading about 1470ohm instead of the 1000 it should be. It also was worn down already on the tip and looked charred. So I went to NAPA, and bought a "napa" brand one (made in Italy) for a wallet torching $54

Glad to say though, it seems to be of much better quality than the Bosch one was. Resistance tested amazing.... 1000.7 ohm. Now that is precise!! The car runs much better with it too....the power is much more smooth and linear through the RPM range. Looks like NAPA sources out good stuff! I've already driven close to 1000 miles with it and its been perfect.

On top of it the NAPA part had better bolts with a bigger allen key size so they aren't as likely to strip out.

rayhennig · #4 07-22-2009, 01:39 AM

Still got the Bremi cap but the rotor arm failed after 18 months. I replaced it with the original, 150K Km MB part until a new MB part arrived. All now works fine, even with the Bremi cap still in place. I will replace the cap with a genuine MB part, however.

My advice is, "Stick with gen. MB parts for cap and rotor".

RayH

pawoSD · #5 07-22-2009, 02:03 AM

I needed mine fast, the MB part was also $50ish.....but was a "special order item" (as pretty much everything seems to be....very annoying)

NAPA had it in stock in that very building!

rayhennig · #6 07-22-2009, 07:54 AM

And I hope you are lucky. I was not.

On my 300ce, the distributor is bolted to the upper front of the engine and it gets hot there. The Bremi rotor arm failed because the resistor (1 KOhm suppressor) broke down at high temperature.

There is no 'active' component in the cap so that may last a long time.

In your shoes, I should keep the caps (unless money is no object) and get new MB-original rotor arms.

RayH

pesuazo · #7 07-22-2009, 08:41 AM

Thanks for the input guys.

Had some nasty episodes of no start after engine is hot (with some serious backfiring and black smoke)

After removing the distributor cap and rotor, I was amazed the car would even run when cold. The inside of the cap is pitted badly on all contact points (and some green residue), the rotor is even worse.
At this point I am 99.9% sure this is my problem. I think these are the original components from factory (

).

Will change the sparkplugs as well.

I am currently pricing all parts at many websites. Should get it done at some point next week (BREMI or BOSCH).

rayhennig · #8 07-22-2009, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pesuazo

Thanks for the input guys.

I am currently pricing all parts at many websites. Should get it done at some point next week (BREMI or BOSCH).

Please read my comments. Bremi let me down so I would urge against.

Bosch may be better quality but some are saying that Bosch quality is not what it was.

Go to your Mercedes Benz dealer and buy the ROTOR ARM there.

Er, if you want, obviously!

RayH

pesuazo · #9 07-22-2009, 02:28 PM

Thanks all for your suggestions.

I will stick with Bosch parts, although at this point it is almost impossible to determine where they were made.

pawoSD · #10 07-22-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayhennig

And I hope you are lucky. I was not.

On my 300ce, the distributor is bolted to the upper front of the engine and it gets hot there. The Bremi rotor arm failed because the resistor (1 KOhm suppressor) broke down at high temperature.

There is no 'active' component in the cap so that may last a long time.

In your shoes, I should keep the caps (unless money is no object) and get new MB-original rotor arms.

RayH

That is probably what happened to the resistor in the Bosch Rotor I had....we'll see if the NAPA one outlasts it. So far so good. Runs way better than before.

pawoSD · #11 07-22-2009, 04:46 PM

Use dealer parts....not just "Bosch". My rotor was toast and out of spec in 6,000 miles.

Ivanerrol · #12 07-22-2009, 09:09 PM

Back firing is very, very bad for the fuel system - particularly the AFM area.

Get the car fixed ASAP.

If your car has the original components you can see how long they have actually lasted for. Why would you buy non MB parts?

pesuazo · #13 07-23-2009, 09:02 AM

Dealer Prices (Bosch, no stock, they need to order them):
Distributor Cap 164.16 each x 2 = 328.32
Distributor Rotor 88.48 each x 2 = 176.96
Total 505.28

Major Online Vendor (Bosch, I have purchased before for my 300E):
Distributor Cap 70.75 each x 2 = 141.50
Distributor Rotor 28.33 each x 2 = 56.66
Total 198.16

Money in my pocket (savings) 307.12 + Tax

No reason to buy at the stealer, they probably order the parts from the same place I order them.

During my years of Mercedes ownership, I have only bought hardware such as body moulding clips from the dealer. Never had a problem with regular maintenance parts from online vendors (Fastlane and/or others).

My concern was exclusively about BREMI Vs. BOSCH, not online vendors (or concerns about the parts being made in some backyard in China).

I am highly confident the online vendors I use have original BOSCH parts.

Parts have already been ordered.

rayhennig · #14 07-23-2009, 10:06 AM

No reason to buy at the stealer, they probably order the parts from the same place I order them.

>>> I don't think they do; certainly not here in Europe. MB-sourced Bosch components have the MB star on them and are hologram packaged to guard against pirates.

My concern was exclusively about BREMI Vs. BOSCH, not online vendors (or concerns about the parts being made in some backyard in China).

>>> I think that's been answered - Bremi, in my case, failed after 18 months. I have chosen to buy MB.

I am highly confident the online vendors I use have original BOSCH parts.

>>> They may have. But are original Bosch parts subject to the same Quality Assurance in manufacture or even the same manufacturing process as those supplied to MB for resale with the MB star? Maybe or maybe not.

I have a number of non-MB-sourced parts on mine (Bilstein springs/shocks, ATE discs/pads) but I've made a decision NOT to compromise on items like ignition that can, and did, leave me stranded at the roadside. There lies even greater cost.

RayH

Ivanerrol · #15 07-23-2009, 09:37 PM

You can buy genuine MB parts from other vendors other than the stealerships. - You just need to be careful.

In my country, stealerships and third party vendors obtain their genuine parts from the one and same source.

The stealership difference is of course overhead and proscribed MB markup costs.

I always get pricing and part numbers from my stealership before shopping around. On some parts the stealership is cheaper.

Euro manufactures share parts. BMW, Audi, MB and some others use the same components. It would'nt be in the MB stealership interests to supply a part to a customer with a BMW logo on it - even though that particular part is used in both marques for exactly the same purpose.

The OEM manufacturers often makes the same part available as an OEM unit without a logo. It's just a matter of finding that part. If you know the Marques OEM them you are on the way to cheaper parts - are you not? As long as the part is manufactured by an OEM to exactly the same spec.