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Old 11-16-2009, 09:36 AM
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how do I test the climate control thermostat

1983 380 SEL
108 k miles
Cincinnati OH Weather mild lately 40 to 60
Only driven this car a few hundred miles, bought it a few months ago.

The symptoms:

When it was warmer and I ran the ac, it would freeze me out. Seems no matter where I set the temp wheel, the air just kept blowing cold. I would have to turn it off and back on to keep from freezing.

Now that it is getting colder I don't get any heat. The blower runs but no heat.

What I have done so far:
1. I replaced the control module (with the wheel and buttons etc) I had an extra one so I decided to try that. No change.
2. I checked the voltage at the monovalve. It has 12 volts steady on the hot and the ground cycles about every one or two seconds. I left the monovalve unplugged so no current would get to it and I get heat in the car, but he blower does not seem to kick down once the heat is up.
3. I checked the vacuum operated door behind the glove box and does open and close when the air is turned on and off. Seems slow but it does work.

What I think: Seems to me that the control module is not getting any feedback on the cabin temperature. I don't know how to test this.

Any help is appreciated.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:36 PM
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Sounds like two problems - Interior temp sensor in the dome light assembly is either bad or the fan that draws air across it has quit.

It also sounds like the monovalve diaphragm is torn, which is very easy to check. 4 screws.

Good luck.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:05 PM
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"Interior temp sensor in the dome light assembly is either bad or the fan that draws air across it has quit."


Is the fan in the area of the dome light also? Should it run all the time?

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Old 11-16-2009, 09:59 PM
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No, the fan is located in the fender, in the passenger's footwell, by the door. A foam hose runs up the A-pillar through the roof to the dome light assembly. The air is drawn across the sensor (in the dome light assy.) through the hose and exhausted in the fender/footwell area.

The fan should be on whenever the climate control is on.

Standard fan test is to put a 1cm square piece of paper over the air slots in the dome light assembly, and see if it sticks there. No stick = no fan.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:15 PM
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Well, I put a small piece of paper on there, turned on the heat and the paper sticks. Let it stay there for 2 min, turned off the car and the paper dropped. Guess that part is working.

I'll pull out the monovalve in the am.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:25 PM
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Monovalve rubber is torn.

OK, I think I understand now, the heat is what was supposed to be controlong the cooling, and since I had no heat the ac was freezing me. Then when I needed heat due to the winter, I had none but didn't realize it yet.

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Old 11-17-2009, 08:44 PM
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The problem is, if your monovalve is torn, it should be letting hot coolant through your heater core, so you should have heat. Check your aux pump - it's what pumps the coolant through the heater core.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:00 PM
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Will have monovavle here to install tomorrow am. I'm going to do it and see what happens. I'll go to the aux pump if I still have the symptoms.

Thansk!
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:28 PM
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Monovalve did it. The system works like a charm.
Thanks so much!
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