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Old 12-13-2009, 02:34 AM
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Transmission issue: Upshift Delay Fault and other

Hey all.

I need some help.

Within the last month, I go to check the codes just in case anything has popped up. it's a usual routine since my CEL comes on anyway from the stupid EGR valve code.

So I run through and get an Upshift Delay Valve issue. I've heard through the grapevine, though not clearly, that this issue is just as insignificant as the EGR code.

But here's an issue I also developed when driving.

Within the next week, some upshifts in when driving have been kinda lethargic. It does it in an inconsistent pattern so I'm left scratching my head.

Background. 94 E320 Coupe. 129,8xx miles. Tranny serviced, flushed and new fluid/filter last summer, at 120k service interval.

It seems like anywhere between 1-40% throttle, 2nd-3rd and 3rd-4th shifts take longer and aren't as firm as they should be. And when the shifts occur, engine revs flare up and then it shifts. Whenever this happens it seems to be at city speeds. Downshifts seem to be unaffected, and even kickdowns seem fine.

To help describe it best, it's like it's shifting when the car is cold, and the upshift delay valve IS working...or for example, when it comes to shift....it's like OK...upshift time...clutch disengage...wait....shift delay?.....then engage clutch. I can video to help you guys see it better.

Also, when I've been driving for a while and this happens...I put my hand on the shift stalk and I don't feel any heat radiating from it (taken from the guide to shift modulation...that if shifts are too soft then that produces heat at the clutch).

It's been really cold recently, can that have a slight effect?

I'm just most worried about my transmission starting to go.

Can the upshift delay valve cause this?

The other thing that it can be is maybe a faulty tranny shift modulator? I ask this one because I made a thread on BenzWorld that whenever I stretch the legs out (meaning 90-120 MPH, please don't give me a lecture on this...I rarely do this) for a couple miles, and then let off but get on the throttle to maintain the speedlimit, I get smoke trailing from the back and the smell of a sort of oil. Someone said that my tranny modulator valve can be leaking in that thread.

What could this be guys and what could use fixing? Any help = awesome cuz I drive daily for work and school, my parents are going through a divorce and my family just had to disown my sister over some issues so I or my family cannot afford a new trans or probably even a mech appt to fix this and my 280S is out of commission for bad brakes.

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Old 12-13-2009, 10:02 AM
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First the trans modulator can by pass fluid and as it has engine VAC it will draw it into the intake manifold causing smoke BUT usually its all the time that it smokes, and very little if at all seen < Reason - the cats on that type benz are very efficient, my sons 300 we had to do valve seals to stop oil consumption , quart every 500 miles and we never seen smoke -- if you do not drive it hard but once in a great while i would not worry about the oill smoke just stop doing that ---

Second the bad nexs - trans flairs are never a good thing and almost always become a tear down to fix , you can go the route flushing the trans oil new filter SURE and using SYN trans fluid 10 quarts 100 bucks, in my opinion one in 50 gets a boost from this and if so you should trade it in, if you cant out pocket the 2 / 3 Gs they want in some shops to re do the unit , just my take -- jz
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Old 12-14-2009, 01:00 AM
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Mercedes transmission is designed this way. If the weather is cold it will take longer from start of the car to go from 1st to 2nd. Some times you will notice that you can rev up to almost 4000 RPM before the transmission shift to second.This is the moment when you see error code 26 (up-shift delay switch/solenoid). Nothing to worry about
It is normal to do this on cold weather. If you drive your car for 20/30 miles so transmission fluid is up to normal operating temp you will notice that the transmission is not jerking any more.
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:38 AM
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Mercedes transmission is designed this way. If the weather is cold it will take longer from start of the car to go from 1st to 2nd. Some times you will notice that you can rev up to almost 4000 RPM before the transmission shift to second.This is the moment when you see error code 26 (up-shift delay switch/solenoid). Nothing to worry about
It is normal to do this on cold weather. If you drive your car for 20/30 miles so transmission fluid is up to normal operating temp you will notice that the transmission is not jerking any more.
Oh I'm aware of the full function of the UDV.

But this is happening when the car is warm.

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