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Old 03-21-2010, 03:40 PM
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Bosch or Kaehler voltage regulator?

My 300SEL has fluctuating lights (all of them), so I am sure the voltage regulator is on the fritz. The two here are Bosch and Kaehler. Kaehler is about $5.00 less and wondering if its just as good of quality? Anything is better than what is on there now.

Checked the local parts stores and they are really no cheaper.

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Old 03-21-2010, 03:46 PM
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I think the KAE ones are made in Germany while (not surprisingly) the Bosch one is made in Spain.

I'd go with Kaehler.
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:18 PM
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Well, thats good. Its even cheaper!

Bosch.... strange. Did you know that my 1991 Chevrolet Caprice has a Bosch made anti-lock brake system from the factory... and it says made in USA on it.
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[QUOTE=pawoSD;2431066] the Bosch one is made in Spain.[QUOTE]

Nothing wrong at all with Spanish-made stuff, the Bosch might even be better. The paradigm usually mandates that buying the cheaper one will get you into trouble. As long as it's European it's all good.
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[QUOTE=d.delano;2431135][QUOTE=pawoSD;2431066] the Bosch one is made in Spain.
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Nothing wrong at all with Spanish-made stuff, the Bosch might even be better. The paradigm usually mandates that buying the cheaper one will get you into trouble. As long as it's European it's all good.
True, but I like having "Made in Germany" on the parts on my...German car.
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Yes, if you don't have made in Germany on parts you put in a German car, the car might get indigestion and spit the offending part out...
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:11 AM
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Well, I may be getting neither as time is of the essence.

My mother has to take the car on a long trip in a couple of days and there is no time to wait to order and wait for the one on fastlane to be shipped and I do not want her driving the car with the one thats on there... it may go out at any time. I guess Duralast is better than the original one thats making the lights pulse like a Christmas tree.

I may have to get the "Duralast" one at the local auto parts store. Sad thing it is also $30.00. Go figure. Oh well.

Oh and you know how I mentioned my 1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic has a Bosch ABS brake system? I was looking in the trunk for something I need to do to reprogram my keyless entry and noticed this big metal box... it also says "Bosch" on it.

Seems strange to me to see Bosch as an original part on a 1991 Chevrolet....

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I used a cheap volt reg from a local auto store on my SD for YEARS without a problem. Just install it and drive on.
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Seems strange to me to see Bosch as an original part on a 1991 Chevrolet....
Why's that so strange... Bosch makes all kinds of things and has been for years and years and years. It's called globalization. Your Chevy probably has Bosch ABS because no American company knew how to make it in 1991.
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True. I just didnt realize they used Bosch parts in the early 90s on GM cars.

Not sure about them "not knowing" since American cars had ABS brakes before German cars. I knew this and Wikipedia will verify that in 1971, Chrysler Corporation together with the "Bendix Corporation", introduced a true computerized three-channel all-wheel antilock brake system called "Sure Brake" on the 1971 Imperial. It was available for several years thereafter, functioned as intended, and proved reliable. General Motors introduced the "Trackmaster" rear-wheel (only) ABS as an option on Cadillacs starting in 1971 and Ford Motor Company started offering it in 1970 as an option on Lincolns and named their system Sure-track. It was also rear wheel only.


Maybe Chevrolet used the Bosch system since it was better and since the Caprice was new for 1991, they wanted the best system out there? I dont know.

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Why's that so strange... Bosch makes all kinds of things and has been for years and years and years. It's called globalization. Your Chevy probably has Bosch ABS because no American company knew how to make it in 1991.

As the saying ;Daimler Benz did not apply a patent on the ABS system when they got it operational, rather use by all vehicle makers for safety standards .
All traction controls are based on this .


regulator replacemrnt may sort the problem ,if it does not then a thorough cleaning of the cummutator may be in order

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Old 03-24-2010, 03:43 PM
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Not sure about them "not knowing" since American cars had ABS brakes before German cars. I knew this and Wikipedia will verify that in 1971, Chrysler Corporation together with the "Bendix Corporation", introduced a true computerized three-channel all-wheel antilock brake system called "Sure Brake" on the 1971 Imperial. It was available for several years thereafter, functioned as intended, and proved reliable. General Motors introduced the "Trackmaster" rear-wheel (only) ABS as an option on Cadillacs starting in 1971 and Ford Motor Company started offering it in 1970 as an option on Lincolns and named their system Sure-track. It was also rear wheel only.
Thanks - I didn't have a clue about that one. I know a lot of innovation came from the Big 3, and it seems they had the ball in '71 but dropped it. Now younger generations will go on thinking MB innovated it when the American companies could have had that distinction. Story of a lot of things Detroit.
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Your welcome. This is really off-topic, but....

Also many do not know that GM was the first car company to offer airbags in their cars. From 1974-76 it was optional on the full-size Oldsmobiles, Buicks and Cadillacs and it was not a driver-only system... it was dual airbags. Only about 10,000 were optioned with it though. My grandmother had a 1974 Oldsmobile Toronado with the option and I almost bought a 1974 Buick Electra once with the option. They also placed these in 1000 1973 Chevrolet Impalas as "test" cars. Then again in 1986, Ford offered it as an option in the Tempo / Mercury Topaz. Not sure why they picked Tempo/Topaz, but they did.

Of course MB offered it (driver airbag) as optional starting in 1984 on the 190 and S-Class models, standard on all starting in 1986. I think in some countries they had them as early as 1981?

Anyway, this is from the 1974 Oldsmobile book... at the bottom it mentions the airbags.... then, it was called, "air cushion restraint".

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