Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-26-2010, 11:59 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NYC AND ATHENS GREECE
Posts: 103
Store bought versus indy installed freon

My 93 400 sel had the evaporator / drier the whole shooting match replaced in 2004.

At the end of last summer it stopped blowing cool , and I brought it to my Indy. It was low on Freon and he put about 1lb in it , then realized his Freon can was empty and it was after 5 Pm so he did not charge me anything and said come back another day and we will fill it.

Now its 8 months later and it works well so far,but with summer coming , I brought it to my new Indy to fill. I figured when it gets warm running it half full is probably not a good idea.

He said he was out of freon till next week and said I should buy a can of Freon at Auto Zone or someplace like that , and fill it myself.

Does anyone agree or disagree with just adding a can without knowing how much is in there. He even said he would help me to put it in, when I bring the car next week to change the motor/tranny mounts. If you guys think its ok , is it a simple thing for me to do on my own?

Or should I insist on him filling it at around $60, versus just adding a can from a store myself or with his help.

Since I have solved my bogging down under load dilemma , I have decided to maintain my car better, and am going to do maintenance work before problems develop. It has 83K miles and still runs like a dream.

I changed plugs, caps/rotors/ , coils and 3 plug suppressors , fuel filter, brake booster hose , radiator cap, had MAf cleaned , and now I am going to change motor and tranny mounts.

Let me know your thoughts on Freon filling

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-27-2010, 06:45 AM
Gilly's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Evansville WI
Posts: 9,616
You said it's working well now, so just do it when the guy has freon again, why take an extra step when it's working?
Gilly
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-27-2010, 08:50 AM
POS's Avatar
POS POS is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,506
What type of freon is in the system - R12 or R134? If it's R134, then you can go to the parts store, buy a can and a hose and put it on yourself or have him help you. The can should only be $10 or so.
__________________
- Brian


1989 500SEL Euro
1966 250SE Cabriolet
1958 BMW Isetta 600
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-27-2010, 09:07 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 2,156
I would have it done by someone who has the right equipment to do the job, youll be saving a money down the road
__________________
1986 300SDL, 211K,Dealership serviced its whole life
1991 190E 2.6(120k)
1983 300D(300k)
1977 300D(211k)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-27-2010, 09:23 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,084
The 140s were designed to use 134A, you need to be carefull about over filling.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-27-2010, 11:35 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: NYC AND ATHENS GREECE
Posts: 103
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Guenther View Post
The 140s were designed to use 134A, you need to be carefull about over filling.

Auto zone has a Quest 134a with 2oz of sub zero booster and with a gauge for $26.99

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/accessories/accProductDetails.jsp?counter=5&categoryDisplayName=Air+Conditioning+Refrigerant+and+Accessories&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=532242_0_0_&productId=532242&sortType=&parentId=1308-10&filterByKeyWord=FREON&categoryNValue=101308&navValue=101150&fromWhere=&itemId=1150-10&displayName=17+oz.+of+R134a+and+2+oz.+of+Sub-Zero+A/C+booster+with+shelf+saving+dispenser&store=5282&skuDisplayName=17+oz.+of+R134a+and+2+oz.+of+Sub-Zero+A/C+booster+with+shelf+saving+dispenser&brandName=Quest

It says synthetic and no tools required. I can find out how much is in there now using K6JRFs method. Do you think it is safe for me to try myself.

I like to be able to familiarize myself with my car by doing simple DIY things myself . Also if it does not take it all , can I save it for future use ?
Is Quest a good brand
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-27-2010, 12:12 PM
amosfella's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vulcan, AB, Canada
Posts: 787
No comment on the brand as one cannot buy R134 in Canada without a course, and small cans are definately a no no...
However, it's not hard to do. Just a few simple instructions to follow. There should be a chart somewhere on the forum about the atmospheric temps, and the pressures to use. Freon is added while the car is running....
__________________
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to stand by and do nothing.

Too many people tip toe through life, never attempting or doing anything great, hoping to make it safely to death... Bob Proctor

'95 S320 LWB
'87 300SDL
'04 E500 wagon 4matic
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-27-2010, 12:14 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,263
Don't buy the stuff with ANY additives. You don't need any of the stuff. It is not likely to help anything, and it has the potential to really screw up your system.

But no matter what you add, be sure to purge the hose(s) of any AIR before you connect to the AC system. You don't want air in the system. Somehow, this vital bit of instruction seems to be left off of these junk kits.

And just to satisfy my pedantic side, Freon is R12. R134a is known by the trade-name Suva. I'd avoid Quest. Look for Du Pont.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page