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cdc02254 07-21-2010 10:10 AM

W123 230e rear Subframe Mounts
 
Just purchased my second W123 and its a gem.

I was aware that there was a problem with the rear subframe rubber bush's/mounts so now need to think about replacing them.

Is there any nice step by step guides around or can anyone point out the do's and don't s to make this job as easy as possible.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards

Brett

Stretch 07-21-2010 10:34 AM

I hope you don't have the trouble I had

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/276507-rear-subframe-removal-bushing-replacement.html

There are loads of other threads on this forum - do a search!

If the main bolts are stiff to get out I recommend trying to take the weight off of them when undoing by lifting the trailing arm a bit.

I have read (here) that you can replace the mounts with out removing the springs - I guess it is possible but I think it is a bordering on the unsafe as it is quite easy for the car / sub frame to move and thus making lots of potential problems! The main bolts are often quite difficult to get back in - I think it is a way easier job to do without the added influence of a spring.

For the record I've now done the job twice. It takes a bit of time the first time - but as with all things it is quite simple once you've done it before. Good luck.

cdc02254 07-21-2010 10:55 AM

The Haynes manual makes it sound quite simple, surprisingly.

Stretch 07-21-2010 02:01 PM

It is and it isn't
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cdc02254 (Post 2509770)
The Haynes manual makes it sound quite simple, surprisingly.

Ha ha ye olde Haynes manual... don't get me started on my handy book of emergency toilet paper.

However, this time I have to sort of agree - this job is essentially very simple. But it helps if you do it on a car that wasn't built 30 years ago. Don't believe me? Do the job. And then do it again - the second time will be much easier!

cdc02254 07-21-2010 02:17 PM

does anyone have any part numbers for the bush kit?.

Stretch 07-22-2010 03:13 AM

You can find loads of part numbers for a W123 at manufacturer's web sites such as

www.febi.com

cdc02254 07-23-2010 02:59 AM

Just jacked the car up and removed the bushes, can anyone tell me if when replacing the bushes you take out the complete bush with what looks like a metal housing. I havnt received the new ones yet but I want to do as much as possible before I get them. I am hoping all of it should come out.

http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/38...frame-Bush.JPG

Stretch 07-23-2010 08:41 AM

Looks like it is stuck in there... you've got a similar problem to the one I had

cdc02254 07-23-2010 09:08 AM

Its all out now, wasnt to bad probably 2 hours in total. Bush's turned up and they are the wrong ones. Gives me time to paint the subframe in situ.

cdc02254 07-29-2010 03:22 AM

Job Done,

Not as bad as I though but I guess that was due to the post's on this forum.

After welding up a tool and painting the subframe and any surrounding metalwork POR 15 I reckon it took about 5 hours.

Ill do a write up and and take some some photos of the tool I made.

Thanks everyone for your help, I couldn't have done it without you.

Regards Brett.


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