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W123 230e rear Subframe Mounts
Just purchased my second W123 and its a gem.
I was aware that there was a problem with the rear subframe rubber bush's/mounts so now need to think about replacing them. Is there any nice step by step guides around or can anyone point out the do's and don't s to make this job as easy as possible. Many thanks in advance. Regards Brett |
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I hope you don't have the trouble I had
Rear subframe removal and bushing replacement There are loads of other threads on this forum - do a search! If the main bolts are stiff to get out I recommend trying to take the weight off of them when undoing by lifting the trailing arm a bit. I have read (here) that you can replace the mounts with out removing the springs - I guess it is possible but I think it is a bordering on the unsafe as it is quite easy for the car / sub frame to move and thus making lots of potential problems! The main bolts are often quite difficult to get back in - I think it is a way easier job to do without the added influence of a spring. For the record I've now done the job twice. It takes a bit of time the first time - but as with all things it is quite simple once you've done it before. Good luck.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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The Haynes manual makes it sound quite simple, surprisingly.
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It is and it isn't
Ha ha ye olde Haynes manual... don't get me started on my handy book of emergency toilet paper.
However, this time I have to sort of agree - this job is essentially very simple. But it helps if you do it on a car that wasn't built 30 years ago. Don't believe me? Do the job. And then do it again - the second time will be much easier!
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! Last edited by Stretch; 07-21-2010 at 02:02 PM. Reason: added an n't - makes all the difference |
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does anyone have any part numbers for the bush kit?.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Just jacked the car up and removed the bushes, can anyone tell me if when replacing the bushes you take out the complete bush with what looks like a metal housing. I havnt received the new ones yet but I want to do as much as possible before I get them. I am hoping all of it should come out.
Last edited by cdc02254; 07-23-2010 at 03:31 AM. |
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Looks like it is stuck in there... you've got a similar problem to the one I had
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Its all out now, wasnt to bad probably 2 hours in total. Bush's turned up and they are the wrong ones. Gives me time to paint the subframe in situ.
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Job Done,
Not as bad as I though but I guess that was due to the post's on this forum. After welding up a tool and painting the subframe and any surrounding metalwork POR 15 I reckon it took about 5 hours. Ill do a write up and and take some some photos of the tool I made. Thanks everyone for your help, I couldn't have done it without you. Regards Brett. |
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