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560 SEL Alternate alternators?
Is the 80amp alt specific to the 560 or is there some cross-compatibility. The setup is pretty basic after all. Higher amperage would be nice. But when I go rebuild shopping I want to know if I can use others designated for other Benzs.
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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles 1992 750il / 17k miles - project car |
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Does it use a serp belt or v belts?
I'm amazed the 560 came with a wimpy 80 amp unit when it had a big stereo, heated seats, and all the other toys to run. I have a 110 amp unit waiting to go in place of the 80 amp on my car now. -J
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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket ![]() Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states! Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels. 2014 Cadillac ELR 2013 Fiat 500E. |
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V belt. And I know what you mean. 80 amp is nothing and its not like other cars of the same vintage came with similar. Other cars easily came with 100+. Also not to mention that with age they degrade. Mine is putting out 13.9v at battery. That has me a little concerned that amp output is also down.
But since its a standard "swing arm" mount I would think others would either go right in or go in with little modification. At least I hope.
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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles 1992 750il / 17k miles - project car |
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is that 13.9 at idle? That's not so bad. My Audi came with a 110A, and my 91/92 Jettas had 90amps, and those cars cost almost 4 times less then the SDL
![]() There's an upgraded bosch alternator used on some Saab cars the 85 and older diesel guys upgrade to, perhaps that would fit your V8? -J
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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket ![]() Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states! Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels. 2014 Cadillac ELR 2013 Fiat 500E. |
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Seems like there's a few old threads circa 2003-2004 on here on the mods necessary to do a 110 amp (maybe even a 140 amp) alternate. Took a little work, but not bad. It was something i had considered when i had the 560sel.
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I think the AL129x alt will work based on the info I found. 115amps. From a Saab. Appears to be a direct fit. Another upgraded to 130amp, but had some slight mods to do because the pulley was too far out.
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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles 1992 750il / 17k miles - project car |
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1991 560 SEL / 185k miles 1992 750il / 17k miles - project car |
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I think all the frames are the same- just have to swap the pulley.
There are lots of ppl running the 110-143 amp and the 150 amp models.. on v-belt cars(up to 2001Alternators). Used they are $50-125. Most ppl throw a new regulator/brush pack on the alt which is another $30-35. You can do bearings too for another $20. Rears seem to get a bit noisy- and it's the cheaper brg. You have to make a new harness for the wiring- need switched power source and then bigger cable to take the power. M |
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The Saab version fits, just the case has to be rotated 180° from when I test fit it a while back.
I do not see how you can get away with much more amperage with a skinny, single V belt. Regardless, 115A > 80A.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look. ![]() '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] |
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