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1998 W140 electrical problems
I have a 1998 S320 an today is was raining. all of a sudden the windshield wipers stopped halfway up the window, and now I've noticed the the windows dont roll down, side mirrors dont work, turn signals dont work. I've checked all fuses and they were all fine.
Any suggestions?
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1998 S320, 225k, Black on Black |
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My first guess would be the ignition switch. Easy check is to start the car, take a test light or one of these fuse testers, and see if a bunch of fuses have no power going to them. You can also try jiggling the key in the ignition (small side to side rotating motion).
Gilly
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Fuses were all OK, but were they getting power to them with key on?
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Doc, we did pull the fuses and checked with a test light, the fuse block is getting power with the key on.
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Including the fuse box in the trunk??
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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Yes doc including the fuse box in the trunk, they were live too
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Doc, My son put the OBD2 sensor on the car and it came up with P1727 code if that means anything?
Thanks for your help
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Sorry, code P1747...
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If you are going to stear me towards the SAM unit, Where is it? Under the Main Fuse box?
Thanks
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No SAMs on the W140 chassis..
Windows have their own computer in the trunk that is powered by fuses in the trunk. P1 747 is suggesting a code in the TRANS computer that must be read from the trans computer. Not ODB2
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Thanks Doc, but back to the original question. No wipers, turn indicators, power windows
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1998 S320, 225k, Black on Black |
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Wipers & turn signals operat off of the combination relay in the front fuse box.
Gets power from fuses 17 (hot all of the time) & fuse 3 (hot with key on). front fuse box Windows are operated from computer in trunk near the fuel filler neck & gets power from fuses 5 & 11 in the trunk (hot all of the time) & fuse 35 front fuse box (power w/key on).
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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Doc , Is this the wiper relay I need? Part number:1405420019
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Update, I couldn't diag the problem, took it to the shop, 4 hours of testing, nothing... Finally dianosed the problem to the ingnition switch. All if fine electrical but when doing a fluid check they found oil in the coolant reservior. Will start a new thread with that problem.
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1998 S320, 225k, Black on Black |
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