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Pressurizing AC with air to see if it holds
I was thinking of pressurizing the AC with compressed air to see if it holds pressure, and if if really lucky, finding where the leak is. It's empty now and I have other problems so I'm just checking things.
It's for a 1998 C230.
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I understand WHY you want to do this, though. I've always looked at all fitting connections and look for oil residue. Have you replaced the compressor itself? The front seal under the clutch is a prime source of leaks. Afterthought: Air in your receiver-dryer is bad.
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The only way you will ever find it is with a stethoscope and then you will have to replace the receiver....don't waste your time. Pressure with R22 and a few oz of Nitrogen + sniffer or pull vacuum and use stethoscope that way listening.
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NO! Don't do that! You will be contaminating the system with moisture and other contaminants from the atmosphere. Pressurize the system with Nitrogen, refrigerant, CO2/Argon, etc. It's not even good to blow out flushing agents with compressed air. Much better to use an inert gas as above. If you do this, you will NEVER get the contaminants out with a vacuum pump.
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I think ps meant to say pressurize with Nitrogen and a few oz. of R22, not the other way around. It only takes a few ounces of R22, pressurized by nitrogen, to make it HIGHLY detectable with an electronic sniffer, even one of the old technology ones.
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Definitely NOT a good idea.
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Yes, and I emphatically said that in the post previous to the one you quoted.
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Dura Cool
I have an 83 240D. It's black, so the AC is a must have. I used DuraCool two years ago and it's cooling well. I ran some of their sealer, without bothering to look for leaks, as I don't care where they are as long as they are plugged.
I got the deluxe kit, with gauges for about $70 CND.
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I'm not picking on you Smiffy, but anytime the subject of sealer comes up, I feel compelled to make a point:
Using a sealant is a REALLY risky thing to do with your auto a/c. If the sealant is nothing more than a seal sweller you will usually be okay. For the use of most sealers, however, you run the risk of completely wrecking your a/c system and make it untouchable by most shops. The non seal swelling sealers will COMPLETELY WRECK most recovery/recycle machines. The shops are NOT anxious to destroy a multi thousand dollar machine in the course of effecting a few hundred dollar repair. Not much profit in it. As a result they will check the system for sealants before connecting to their machine. If sealant is detected they will NOT connect to the machine for recovery, thus it is ILLEGAL for them to service the system. Just want to make sure everyone is aware of this. I am NOT one who is a proponent of making things illegal, but if they were to pass a law making a/c sealants illegal I would certainly not protest.
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I replace too many compressors and other components wrecked by stop leak every year. This is an especially BAD idea on the newer compressors that have a speed sensor. .
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Nitrogen, R12, R22, and vacuum are safe. Rule of thumb if there is no rush: * Vacuum the system 12 - 24 hours. * If the system will then hold vacuum without loss for 12 hours it is OK to re-charge. .
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