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Take a look at what this shop did to my engine
...or didn't do.
Had the signs of a bad head gasket even after a shop apparently did the job three months ago. See if you can tell what they didn't do from the pictures... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The second picture probably tells the story best. Head is off to the machinist tomorrow, but overall this was a pretty easy job. Car is a 1991 300E |
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They didnt replace the gasket? or didnt torque it correctly?by the way dont leave that coolant in the cylinders like that you will rust the cylinders.
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If you where using any oil, now would be a good time to change the valve seals.
The head gasket was the first "big" job I ever did on my Benz. Ah, the memories......
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They didn't torque the head at all. One of the head bolts was bobbling around in its sleeve.
The water was removed, this was just after I took the head off. |
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That calls for a drug test in the shop.
What's in teh 3rd picture, manifold gasket piece?
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Whoa! Hold on there pardner! Those guys oughta be testing their drugs at HOME, not in the shop!
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The pictures are too blurry to make out much, even then the head pic as looks like they used a sanding disc for clean up.
Getting rid of the antifreeze in the cylinders needs to consist of a shop vac for suction and a compressed air blow gun to remove liquid from the piston ring area. |
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Yeah my hands were a bit dirty and I guess I got the lens dirty as well.
Not a sanding disc, but what looks to just be sand paper and hand sanding. I think that one bolt just vibrated out because the symptoms started getting worse and worse as I drove it. And the third picture was the intake gasket, yes. |
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If not Their business name...
at least their street address.
So that no unknowing,innocent darkens their doorway EVER!
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Santos Auto Service
1217 Springfield Pike Cincinnati, OH 45215 |
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Another reason why you shouldn't take a Mercedes to Japanese and Domestic wrench monkeys.
Without a doubt, get the valve stem seals done now and you will enjoy not burning any oil. The M103 has a tendency to like to burn oil, but that doesn't mean its supposed to. With good valves and seals, it shouldn't burn a drop.
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That's the strangest story I've heard for ages.
The torquing must have been done on shift change - one man started - one man supposedly finished.
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or stripped threads on a few bolts .... best to clean and check each one .
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How many feet was it driven before you noticed a small problem?
Cheers!
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I've heard stories of guys not really understanding what angular torque specs meant, and just pulled the bolts down to 70 Nm and walked away - not adding the additional 180 degree twist. Maybe that's what happened.
Oh, if you open the coolant block drain on the right rear of a M103 there will be zero coolant in the cylinders when you pull the head. DG |
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