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Old 07-15-2012, 01:14 PM
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1989 300E 120k M103 engine

No. 6 fuse blows intermittently without any pattern. Fuse is for horn, turn signals and outside temperature gauge. Inspected/cleaned all bulb holders, wiring, and fuse holder with no luck. Any ideas?

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Old 07-15-2012, 02:12 PM
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According to the FSM Fuse 6 Powers:

Turn Signal / Hazard Lamps
Outside Temperature Gauge
Warning System
Horns.

Perhaps you've got something shorting out randomly? Have you worked on anything recently? When did this start?

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Old 07-15-2012, 03:17 PM
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Question Hi Again!

Did replace the ourside temperature display module last year. Cannot recall if it was before or after this problem started!
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:52 PM
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You say random without any pattern, but in general how long does the fuse last? Are you sure you are using the correct amp fuse?
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Old 07-16-2012, 04:50 PM
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Electrical Short

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You say random without any pattern, but in general how long does the fuse last? Are you sure you are using the correct amp fuse?
In general, a fuse may last for a few days but just went about 5 months without shorting. Just blew 3 fuses within a few minutes (8amp and 1 16amp I threw in there to see if that would hold). 8 amp is spec.

Maybe I better take a closer at the wiring around the trunk area to see if there is some hidden insulation problems............or even pull the cluster to check on the warning lights/wiring and the outside temperature module.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:34 PM
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Keep trying a 16 amp fuse, and watch the wiring die.

You might pull the cluster and check out the plugs, etc, for the outside temp display. Something may be pinched.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:09 PM
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I was thinking of the back of the cluster too, or see if anything has been added to a circuit, like a plug in for a radar detector, anything like that. These intermittent ones are always a joy.
If you are lucky you can mess with a few of these components and find the short. You could pull up the fuse box and look inside for signs of shorting too. I would suspect the problem lies between the fuse and a component, not after a component.
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:46 AM
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Fuse

Starting to see a trend!

Fuse blows with a minute or two after driving with the blower running. Fuse blows and blower slows down for about 5 seconds then resumes prior speed. I wonder .......Hmmm, the climate control system is fuse 7!

May I better look at the connections under the fuse holders to see if anything is arcing under there!
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Divide & conquer!

Go to the bottom of the fuse box where all the wires connect to the fuse box & cut and
INSERT an in-line fuse holder into each of the wires. $5-10
USE fuses rated slightly lower than the one in the box. Then when something QUITS working you will find WHAT consumer is blowing the fuse. Good luck
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:19 PM
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Culprit?

A local Mercedes shop confirmed for a nominal fee that the climate control unit was going bad and somehow affected fuse #6 which was on an adjacent circuit. The fuse only blew up when the climate control was on! They substituted another climate control unit and everything was fine!

Guess I am in the market for a reconditioned climate control unit or someone who can fix mine! James Dean?
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:42 PM
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That "divide and conquer" stuff don't go over too good here in WI.
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I have a climate control push button unit out of my 1987 300e available. My original one went bad and I replaced it. The car was totaled last month by a careless driver, so before the insurance company picked it up I put the old bad one back in and kept the working one. It only takes about 10 minutes to swap it out. I want $50 for it.

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Old 08-08-2012, 07:16 PM
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I have a climate control push button unit out of my 1987 300e available. My original one went bad and I replaced it. The car was totaled last month by a careless driver, so before the insurance company picked it up I put the old bad one back in and kept the working one. It only takes about 10 minutes to swap it out. I want $50 for it.

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Thanks for the offer!

I decided to buy a remanufactured CC unit at a discount with a warranty. Hope that was the issue!
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:30 PM
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A local Mercedes shop confirmed for a nominal fee that the climate control unit was going bad and somehow affected fuse #6 which was on an adjacent circuit. The fuse only blew up when the climate control was on! They substituted another climate control unit and everything was fine!

Guess I am in the market for a reconditioned climate control unit or someone who can fix mine! James Dean?
hey big dog,

I'm a bit late to this thread. I've done some re-work on some first gen 126 climate control units. But never one of the newer style ones. If you've no use for the old one I'd love to give it a shot. See what was going on in there..
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:08 AM
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Have to send my old CC unit back to the seller for a core refund. Would have been awesome to have you repair my cruise control amp and CC unit!

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