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Old 05-22-2013, 12:56 PM
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You have to realize that when the car is running it starts to recirculate already cooler air. Reading back on my old thread, 30* drop is what you would be looking for.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:05 PM
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by reading here, it seems that the only different bit is the condenser fans, I know my car is R134a, has twin fans at the front and I get numbed fingers from the cold - so much that I have to dial it down to 78F to be comfy.

As our condensers arent worth it, I believe it would be mighty beneficial to use a multipass condenser or even a refrigerated dryer (seen that in porsche once)
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:43 PM
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by reading here, it seems that the only different bit is the condenser fans, I know my car is R134a, has twin fans at the front and I get numbed fingers from the cold - so much that I have to dial it down to 78F to be comfy.

As our condensers arent worth it, I believe it would be mighty beneficial to use a multipass condenser or even a refrigerated dryer (seen that in porsche once)

There are other differences including the higher capacity 10P17 compressor. The 124 cars designed for 134 seem to work well, retrofitting an earlier car is not a good plan. It is a very poor candidate for 134 conversion.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:47 PM
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James, it would be MUCH more time and cost efficient to simply reverse convert to R12. Just get a new receiver drier and an o-ring kit. Break all lines and flush them all. If you don't have a flush gun use brake kleen. Blow out the lines thoroughly, preferably with an inert gas, but compressed air if you have nothing else. Rinse the compressor with mineral oil, not solvent.

When you put everything back together distribute the oil in several components and put the r/d in place as the very last step and be ready to evacuate as soon as the r/d is in place. Then charge with R12.

I've reverse converted a number of vehicles with great success. With R12 prices being as low as they are these days, this is a very practical thing to do and will not only save the cost of all those parts, but offer less chances for problems.

Hope this helps.
I agree, a properly done R12 conversion seems to be the best approach. Proper being everything resealed, thoroughly cleaned, flushed, evacuated etc.

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There are other differences including the higher capacity 10P17 compressor. The 124 cars designed for 134 seem to work well, retrofitting an earlier car is not a good plan. It is a very poor candidate for 134 conversion.
I was looking into these 134 cars. According to the EPC, the 95 E300D and my 91 300D share the same, evap, condenser and compressor. It would seem MB did not really do much in the way of 134a (at least on the E300D, I didnt look at the rest of the cars)

I do like the quick-connect ports though will miss them when its converted back
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