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Old 08-22-2018, 11:26 AM
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SBC WARRANY EXTENSION PART 2

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a recent change has been done on warranty coverage for SBC Hydraulic Units for MY2003-2006 Model 211, MY2006 Model 219 and MY 2003-2012 Models 230/231 was extended from 4 years / 50k miles to 25 years unlimited miles.
The extended warranty also applies to MY2004-2012 Model 240 and MY2005-2009 Model 199.
If you encounter an issue with SBC, please check with your local authorized Mercedes Benz dealership for details.

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Old 08-22-2018, 06:20 PM
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A warranty of 25 years / unlimited miles is absolute insanity, regular braking systems are not warranted that long.

The real worrisome part is others will use this as leverage to extend the warranty on other systems and cars regardless of brand.

Having 4 + decades in and around the car business, I have consistently seen customer expectations exceed reality and this seems to be a turn for the worse. What is next? Pay for the car after you are done using it?
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:14 AM
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The warranty would only be for the electrohydraulic unit of the SBC. When that fails you have extremely diminished braking power and is a very dangerous situation.

Im sure MB will say get lost if people show up trying to warranty brake pads or warped rotors on these cars.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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The twenty five year warranty is nothing more than grandstanding on the part of MB. They know full well that the overwhelming majority of SBC equipped cars will be in the boneyard within five years or so.............
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Old 08-31-2018, 12:05 AM
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Actual Letter

I've attached the ACTUAL MB letter which I received today in the mail, albeit redacted a bit, it identifies the vehicles and the components covered by the new 25 year warranty.

The list of parts covered is extensive.

The part I like is if you have paid to repair the SBC componants listed in the letter since the end of the original warranty, the expense looks to be reimbursable, IF it was done at the stealership.

Kind of a gift from Santa in August. I've had this car 9 years and it's 14 years old, I have the Mx records from day one and it's NEVER had an issue, yet there's a din that pervades the internet about how crap the system is, yet I've not ever had a problem on my 2005.

Hopefully this actual documentation of what MB is offering will clear up the wives tails, moronic speculation and other misinformation as to what is covered and what is not.
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Old 08-31-2018, 12:19 AM
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The twenty five year warranty is nothing more than grandstanding on the part of MB. They know full well that the overwhelming majority of SBC equipped cars will be in the boneyard within five years or so.............
I'll partially agree with your comment, The E's for sure will be well past their useful life in regular service in 5 years, sans the diesel, along with the 06 CLSs, and I can't imagine there are many too Maybachs from 2004-2012, as rare as they were. However, the 2003-2012 SLs will be out there for decades, of which there are a good plenty--I suspect this warranty will give those SL years more of an appeal than they might have had? Not sure, I never gave the SBC issue a thought. (The SL warranty will expire from 2029 to 2037--guess you don't need to worry about getting parts??)

Yeah yeah I fully realize there are a pant load of Es vs SLs, despite the fact the Es were only 4 model years with SBC and the SLs were 10 model years.
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Old 08-31-2018, 08:15 AM
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We would need to see the original warranty as the one you posted is an addendum .

I don't consider hitting the cycle counter a premature failure of the SBC unit. I consider it a hitting end of expected service life just like an oil filter or brake pad thickness warning.

This would need to be specifically addressed in the original warranty.
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:57 AM
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A warranty of 25 years / unlimited miles is absolute insanity, regular braking systems are not warranted that long.

The real worrisome part is others will use this as leverage to extend the warranty on other systems and cars regardless of brand.

Having 4 + decades in and around the car business, I have consistently seen customer expectations exceed reality and this seems to be a turn for the worse. What is next? Pay for the car after you are done using it?
Insanity?....no! MB is taking ownership of a very complicated braking system and making sure they are repaired correctly for the reasonable lifespan of the vehicles it was installed in. To me, they are doing the right thing and getting out in front of what could have been a huge liability issue.
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I submitted my receipts for an SBC pump replacement that was done at an indy and MB refunded the full amount. In the end, MB paid less than what it would have cost at the dealership.
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My newly aquired 05 has an error code indicating pressure reservoir is bad. Is this covered?
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Old 10-09-2018, 08:49 AM
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My newly aquired 05 has an error code indicating pressure reservoir is bad. Is this covered?
My '05 had the same code and I replaced the part- with no difference in performance or error code. The old part was not defective. YMMV.
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My newly aquired 05 has an error code indicating pressure reservoir is bad. Is this covered?
What is the code number and exact MB description?

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