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Old 04-22-2019, 03:32 PM
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99 S500 m119 timing chain job

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Recently my timing chain jumped on my car and broke the guides. Now I have checked the compression in all cylinders and it is 160-170. So I believe the valves should be ok. I am going to order the febi timing chain kit and replace all of those parts. What else should I replace? The oilers are good. I guess I will have to remove the oil pan and clean all the debris out of there. so hopefully that seals up again. Valve cover gaskets?
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:39 PM
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Also does anyone know if the febi timing chain kit comes with the upper chain guide gaskets?
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:37 AM
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We've done this job more than a few times. We buy all the parts separately, so i'm not sure what comes with the kit, but after seeing so many febi chain tensioners fail, I would definitely go with OE on that.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:34 PM
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i wouldn't do that job with febi parts, oe only. never had a 119 jump time. i know if a 117 jumped 1 to 4 teeth, valves are ok. any more and the d/s has 4 bent. i'd pull the valve covers and make sure. and i sure as hell would not have tried a compression test before doing a new chain, etc. very lucky.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:45 PM
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lol, I drove it 30 miles the compression test wasn't going to change anything. Paul, do I have to replace the tensioner? What guides will I be replacing from the top side of the engine? I will price the parts separate and see if it makes sense to do it that way. Do you usually replace those gaskets I was talking about?
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:49 PM
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always replace the tensioner, they get weak. always replace all the guides, they get brittle with age. once they get to root beer brown, it's time. you have to pull the covers off, so valve cover gaskets, also.

oe chain, oe tensioner, oe or goetze gaskets and the febi guides will do fine. the non-oe stuff i mention oe for is not worth it. had a febi tensioner fail on a 117 and luckily caught it in time. too tough a job to do again. good luck, chuck.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:54 PM
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I'm only doing the upper guides. I'm not pulling the front cover off. So I just need the guides I can do up there. The Victor gaskets ok?
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:07 PM
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no on victor.
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:33 AM
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Here's all the parts we replace on that job. We go OE on the tensioner and valve cover gaskets. I don't know what the deal was, but about five years ago we started getting tons of come backs for leaky valve cover gaskets that weren't OE. Disregard the Uro brands listed. I would do all the oilers tubes if they're the original plastic or update to the aluminum ones. This isn't an easy job. very time consuming. You'll need the tool to mount near the cam gears to roll the new chain in.

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Old 04-24-2019, 08:12 PM
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Paul where did you get those prices from?
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Old 04-24-2019, 08:42 PM
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Paul where did you get those prices from?
imc on the bottom of the page. wholesale only to the trade.

it WAS on the bottom of the page.
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:22 PM
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I finally have all the parts and want to tackle the job, but I need some instructions. I'm not sure where to start.
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:57 PM
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I finally have all the parts and want to tackle the job, but I need some instructions. I'm not sure where to start.
Valve covers.. remove intake and exhaust.
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Old 06-02-2019, 10:42 PM
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Lol way past there. I can't find the tensioner and not sure if I can cut the chain and start doing the guides or when I should pin the cams
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:22 PM
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Take note of cam positions, start at tdc 1,put a socket at spot where intake cam at driver's side was,have the chain roll over the socket, remove all 4 cams, that way you cant bend valves, cut the chain link , connect old chain to new, with a helper. Crank out old chain, untill center of right side valve cover, remove old chain connect new chain, install cams after turning crank back to tdc, start there and assemble driver's side first ,end with exhaust cam then tensioner last, more details, but in a nutshell thats the basics
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