Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-26-2019, 04:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 463
560 SEL in "limp" mode...

Hi all, I just did a plenum seal job on my 1989 560 SEL. I had my mechanic go over the work, do a smoke test, all is solid and OK. He congratulated me on the job. But the car does not accelerate worth crap. It is beyond his knowledge, he suspects something electronic. The problem started after the transmission was replaced.

What would put a 560 SEL into "limp" mode? He noticed that the spark does not advance as you attempt to accelerate the engine.

Any pointers would be appreciated. There are no vacuum leaks, everthing is tight, and the mixture has been adjusted.
__________________
Henry Bofinger
1989 560 SEL (black/black)
2001 Audi TT Roadster (silver/grey)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-27-2019, 12:41 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 949
Quote:
Originally Posted by hbofinger View Post
He noticed that the spark does not advance as you attempt to accelerate the engine.

Timing on a 560SEL is done by the EZL which needs to have a vacuum hose connected to it

vacuum connects to number 1 on this picture:



you can check with a vacuum gauge if there is vacuum from the line


Also another tip: clean the inside posts of your distributor cap. You won't believe how dirty they can get I have to clean mine every month or two.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-27-2019, 07:55 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 463
Quote:
Originally Posted by christuna View Post
Timing on a 560SEL is done by the EZL which needs to have a vacuum hose connected to it

vacuum connects to number 1 on this picture:



you can check with a vacuum gauge if there is vacuum from the line


Also another tip: clean the inside posts of your distributor cap. You won't believe how dirty they can get I have to clean mine every month or two.
Thank you for your helpful reply, will follow up on the vacuum line.
__________________
Henry Bofinger
1989 560 SEL (black/black)
2001 Audi TT Roadster (silver/grey)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-27-2019, 12:04 PM
ILUVMILS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,082
Check all throttle linkages carefully. Something might've gotten thrown off when the transmission job was done.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-29-2019, 12:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 463
Quote:
Originally Posted by ILUVMILS View Post
Check all throttle linkages carefully. Something might've gotten thrown off when the transmission job was done.
Linkages are ok... I do wonder about the crank angle sensor, except that a friend of mine has stated the engine would not even run if something were wrong there...
__________________
Henry Bofinger
1989 560 SEL (black/black)
2001 Audi TT Roadster (silver/grey)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-29-2019, 12:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 463
Vacuum OK!

Quote:
Originally Posted by hbofinger View Post
Thank you for your helpful reply, will follow up on the vacuum line.
Checked it with a gauge, there is vacuum...
__________________
Henry Bofinger
1989 560 SEL (black/black)
2001 Audi TT Roadster (silver/grey)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-27-2019, 12:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Modesto CA
Posts: 4,322
Quote:
Originally Posted by hbofinger View Post
Hi all, I just did a plenum seal job on my 1989 560 SEL. I had my mechanic go over the work, do a smoke test, all is solid and OK. He congratulated me on the job. But the car does not accelerate worth crap. It is beyond his knowledge, he suspects something electronic. The problem started after the transmission was replaced.

What would put a 560 SEL into "limp" mode? He noticed that the spark does not advance as you attempt to accelerate the engine.

Any pointers would be appreciated. There are no vacuum leaks, everthing is tight, and the mixture has been adjusted.

Did the congratulatory "mechanic" also replace the transmission?
What is the chronological order of the intake work and the replacement of the trans?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-29-2019, 12:06 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 463
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Reiner View Post
Did the congratulatory "mechanic" also replace the transmission?
What is the chronological order of the intake work and the replacement of the trans?
First: Transmission exchange. Replaced it with a Sun Valley rebuild. Old one was smoking, no power issues.

Second: Power issues appeared. Mechanic blamed Plenum Seals. I did the job over a three month period. Seals were bad, also found a cracked hose under the fuel distributor.

Third: Upon starting, the power problems persisted.

Just did a vacuum test by the EZL: It is receiveing strong vacuum, so this is not the issue. Suspect bad EZL... (timing not advancing with increased rpm)
__________________
Henry Bofinger
1989 560 SEL (black/black)
2001 Audi TT Roadster (silver/grey)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page