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Old 04-21-2020, 07:18 PM
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Anyone own a 500e

Want to hear opinions about the car. I’m looking at a 93

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Old 04-22-2020, 08:01 AM
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Future collectible...actually accurate to say current collectible. I'd buy the best I could find if I were so inclined to buy one.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:23 AM
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No, but years ago, quite a few years ago, I was shopping for one to use as a daily driver. Never found the right car so it never happened.

It’s a 124 chassis with all that implies. So extremely solid build quality. But electronics, safety systems, audio, climate control are crude by today’s standards.

There is a dedicated forum for the 500E/E500 at *********.co. Probably The best resource out there for opinions, trouble spots, etc.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:51 AM
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that dedicated forum spoken of before me - these guys are the experts - once they have the VIN - they can practically track the entire car's history.

lots of them have been cleaned up nice but have huge mechanical problems - these guys sniff them out.
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:17 PM
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I just pretend my '95 E300D is a E500 when I go 80-85mph.
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1994 E320 Wagon (Died @ 308,669 miles)
1995 E300 Diesel (228,000)
1999 E300 Turbodiesel ( died @ 255,000)
2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 AC 4X4 (115,000 miles) rusted frame - sold to chop shop
2011 Audi A4 Avant (165,000 miles) Seized engine - donated to Salvation Army
BMW 330 xi 6 speed manual (175,034 miles)
2014 E350 4Matic Wagon 128,000 miles
2018 Dodge Ram 21,000 miles
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:29 PM
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I've had my 92 for many, years. I think I got it back in 99.
I've got 215k on it and used it as a daily driver up until just a couple of years ago.

It's no secret that the most important things to look for is the wire harness o upper and lower on the engine, the throttle actuator, the a/c evaporator have been done. Service history and maintenance records are what you want to see, so you can tell if the car has been properly cared for or not.

Eventhough mine has a lot of miles, it is in better shape than most with only half as much.....but I take car of my cars like they are my children, and have been a indy benz tech since 1981.
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Old 04-22-2020, 02:15 PM
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The car has 128k, rebuilt trans,new upper and lower harness. New eta ,water pump,rebuilt power steering hydraulic pump.engine and trans mounts. I have not driven yet. All work done in the last few weeks
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Old 04-22-2020, 09:41 PM
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Sounds like some of the "right stuff" has been done.
I strongly advise you get a full pre purchase inspection, before making a commitment, on any car.
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Old 04-26-2020, 10:32 PM
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The car has 128k, rebuilt trans,new upper and lower harness. New eta ,water pump,rebuilt power steering hydraulic pump.engine and trans mounts. I have not driven yet. All work done in the last few weeks
Definitely recommend doing some research over at the 500e board .co forum. It’s by far the most knowledgeable forum for the V8 powered W124s.
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Old 04-28-2020, 08:39 AM
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if I remember right the biggest scam job they talk about on the 500E/E500 site is the cover-up of rust in the trunk area and around the front springs.
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1994 E320 Wagon (Died @ 308,669 miles)
1995 E300 Diesel (228,000)
1999 E300 Turbodiesel ( died @ 255,000)
2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 AC 4X4 (115,000 miles) rusted frame - sold to chop shop
2011 Audi A4 Avant (165,000 miles) Seized engine - donated to Salvation Army
BMW 330 xi 6 speed manual (175,034 miles)
2014 E350 4Matic Wagon 128,000 miles
2018 Dodge Ram 21,000 miles
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:11 AM
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Owned '92, Own '95 Euro

Hi,

I have loved both of my 500Es, they are simply fabulous cars. Unequaled build quality, a proper wolf in sheep's attire. My '92 endured 300k miles and about 25 HPDE track days, and was only sidelined when an ML430 (driven by a distracted driver) punched it from behind. Hard. Total loss. I did manage to buy the car back, so its perfect interior is now in my '95, which was bought as a dumpster fire. That car is now very nice, amazing what about $20k in parts & bodywork can do for a car.

However, even my '95, the end of the end of the run, is 25 yrs old so requires considerable continuing maintanance to remain in proper order, even given I put Very few miles on it (actually planning to put it up for auction once I sort the headliner). Know that parts are becoming tough to find. F'rinstance, I had some problems with the A/C last year, and finding the right condenser (which is the same as every other 400E/500E made!) was near impossible, and OE was nearly a grand...ooof.

So, my advice is this: buy the nicest one you can afford, with the thickest wad of parts receipts. You cannot go wrong no matter the model year. My '95 feels no slower than my '92, even before I installed the '92 LH module in the '95 car. And my '95 stops no better (although can likely handle more repeated big braking events) even though it has bigger brakes both in the front and rear (the big rear brakes were Euro only). Great brakes on all of them, even the early front aluminum calipers

Good luck with your search!!
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Old 04-28-2020, 10:59 AM
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I drove the 93 and it was great. Much work done on car. Amazed how tight it is, no rattles or squeaks. Very quiet inside while doing 90.
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Old 04-28-2020, 05:42 PM
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Dealer owned or privately owned?
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Old 04-29-2020, 11:10 AM
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My friend is dealer -restorer. I have watched progress on doing all the catch up work. That is why I feel confident of it’s condition. One owner car

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