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Old 08-19-2020, 06:52 AM
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keep recharing A/C

2011 e350 a/c not working. I took it to dealer in 2018, they recharged the system. A/C worked until July 2020. Took car to dealer 8/17/20, advisor stated system needs recharge with dye. I questioned why is a closed system needing recharge -where is the leak? Advisor insists car was diagnosed and even install an A/C update . They do not see a leak.. Scratching my head, What's up here.

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Old 08-19-2020, 12:10 PM
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Small leaks can be difficult to pinpoint. FWIW, the cost of a yearly re-charge is less than even the simplest repair. If the system works well during the warmer months I'd just keep charging it.....
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thank you for your advice
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Old 08-19-2020, 05:20 PM
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What about the environment? jk'ing

What ILUVMILS said.

How many miles are on it? One of the best tools I have access to is an electronic freon detector. Works real good. Did dye get put in it? If yes, then you should see it next time you fill.
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Old 08-20-2020, 06:12 AM
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zeggate, in 2013 the A/C was not working in our 1998 E320. Repair cost almost $4,000 to replace the evaporator, compressor, drier and expansion valve. The car is built around the evaporator so the dash must be removed to replace it … hefty labor charge. Apparently specific manufacturers' evaporators are more likely to fail than others, so it's pot luck how troublesome your A/C system becomes.

If the MB dealer is willing to recharge the A/C system for you that's the least expensive way to go, but your leaky system is harming the atmosphere. Environmentally-responsible shops will insist that the A/C system leak be located and repaired.
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Thanks to all for your input. I get it ,we should be environmentally responsible meanwhile their killing us with a virus that can be stopped with hand sanitizer ? ? I digress.

The dealer says they used a leak detector with a dye. If it needs recharging again the leak should been seen. Keeping my fingers crossed. At $325.00 per recharge I will have paid for a repair in about 11 more visits.

The stresses of life go on. Thanks again , Happy Benzing
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I get it ,we should be environmentally responsible meanwhile their killing us with a virus that can be stopped with hand sanitizer ? ? I digress.
You, sir, win the Internet this morning. Excuse me while I go clean coffee from my monitor and keyboard.

To echo what others have already said in this thread, if it's taking 2 years to leak the charge out, the leak is likely too small to effectively locate. No automotive system is 100% leak free, and as they age you develop leaks and weeps at joints, rubber hoses, gaskets, and shaft seals.

Just as a personal example: My Honda has a very slow leak in it somewhere that has never been successfully located. Every year or two it needs a top-off, about 3-4 ounces of refrigerant. Total system charge is 14 ounces on that car, so taking 1-2 years to leak out that small amount means the leak is tiny. The dye may help, but even that's not a guarantee. My car has had dye in it since 2015 and despite gas still leaking, there's no dye trail anywhere that can be seen.
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Thank you . Points well taken. Enjoy
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Old 08-23-2020, 02:06 AM
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Thanks to all for your input. I get it ,we should be environmentally responsible meanwhile their killing us with a virus that can be stopped with hand sanitizer ? ? I digress.

The dealer says they used a leak detector with a dye. If it needs recharging again the leak should been seen. Keeping my fingers crossed. At $325.00 per recharge I will have paid for a repair in about 11 more visits.

The stresses of life go on. Thanks again , Happy Benzing
Ditch the dealer and just use r152a. Less than $20 to fill your system and it's environmentally friendly.
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I've had slow hard to find leaks too. There are a lot of O-rings in that system and sometimes they hold up for 20yrs, sometimes only a few. So what I do is buy the sealant. I used this one last, worked great; amazon.com/dp/B086KYJSLG I used this to put it in; amazon.com/dp/B07FCFWXNQ along with some freon of course, which I bought a six pack or so of.
I think I spent like $70 or so all together and have plenty of freon left over.
That hose assy has a check valve in it so you don't need to have a can on it to read your pressure. Just use it like a a tire pressure gauge, pop it on, check psi. Mine likes to be on the higher end, I think it 45 psi? Likely due to it being hot where I live which is currently >100.
If it still leaks then you can use a UV light to look for it since the sealer has UV die in it. I have a UV light I got on ebay; ebay.com/itm/361959635949

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