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R129 ASR and ABS lights with stalling
Hi. I have a 1991 300 SL with 300K kilometers. Unfortunately it only has an OBD-1 diagnostic (16 port with led flashes referencing a pdf table).
It ran great all summer but when the engine was hot I had to give the engine gas for it to catch. All summer the rollbar dash and switch lights regularly went on for awhile then off and back again. A couple times the ASR and ABS lights came on together whilst driving but then would go out in a few minutes or upon restart. Last week the ASR and ABS lights came on when starting car and accelerating from a stop caused staggering as if starved for gas before stalling out completely as gas is applied. However it did start and idle and even rev in park immediately after stall. To get home I found I could feather the acceleration and slowly get to speed. Diagnosing the next day the problem went away while driving but the ASR/ABS lights remain on at start and constantly thereafter. Over the past week the stalling problem has returned sporadically and now sometimes when starting I must rev engine for a while or it stalls by itself. The LED codes report errors as follows:
Fwiw when last returned from a mechanic the odometer had stopped working. And at the start of this past week error code 10-28 “No speedometer signal” and 10-27 “Insufficient voltage” displayed but they have not returned after being cleared. I checked both axle switches setting either one to “Arrete” and braking sharply deployed the rollbar but setting them to “Funktion” and manually pulling down (with car running) did not. I’ve checked all fuses and replaced #4 fuse in trunk without change. The softtop operates without problem. I’ve ordered a new Crankshaft position sensor (before reading and confirming that the error code 8-17 disappears when engine is running) PART NUMBER 0021539228. I am contemplating buying a replacement Rollbar Control Module PART NUMBER 0285001016. I am unsure about the wheel speed sensors – there seems to be a Front Right (1295402717) and Front Left (1295400817 ) plus Rear Right (1295402117) and Rear Left (can’t find part # suggestions welcomed) I’ve read extensively in forums with suggestions including (please correct any errors in the cut and pastes below):
I realize I may be dealing with two or more separate issues but suggestions on what to try next would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
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first replace crankshaft sensor
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if the engine was not running, the crank sensor code will post. the ecu looks for a return signal from it and there is none with engine off. scoped many a crank sensor until i realized the strategy.
that generation abs had iffy speed sensors, i'd scope them first but i think you need them. good luck, chuck. |
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Thanks for all feedback. I replaced the OVP relay . . . . and the ASR/ABS warning lights in the instrument cluster went OFF!!!
The car then started and idled great but when I went to drive it the stalling on acceleration was still there. I staggered around a few blocks and was just about to return home and have it towed to a mechanic . . . when the stalling problem went away and the car has driven perfectly for the past week or so. The ASR/ABS lights have remained off the whole time and if the problem returns (sans lights) my next move will be to clean the distributor cap and rotors which were replaced in 2018. I will post any updates as appropriate but hope my lesson (OVP REPLACEMENT) can help others. As a side note the auto parts place only had a URO available though I subsequently have read KAE/Kaehler, Stribel and MB OEM part # is 201-540-37-45 are better (in that order). |
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Check the charging system output. Remove the voltage regulator, inspect the brushes and replace if needed.
Good luck!!!
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Bad news -- sort of. It's been running like a top for a week but yesterday (a rainy day fwiw) the stalling out returned though only for a few minutes. The car was warm and after four or five attempts to start and feather the revs past stalling it forgot the problem and has driven great for two days. But obviously worrying. Here is video of the failed startup attempts: https://share.icloud.com/photos/0YQzTYa6tOJqDPG4qHqOFzpEw
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