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Old 10-23-2002, 11:27 PM
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Exclamation Two Problems with my 1984 190E Please help!

I have an 1984 190E 2.3. I tried to turn the key in the ignition today and it wouldn't turn at all. The steering wheel was not in the lock position either. Finally after wiggling my key for about 5 minutes the key finally turned. What could be causing this?? Is it anything major?

My second question is that when i first start the car and it's cold out, i give it gas and when it's coming out of first gear you hear a scraping noise. Then there is this rapping that seems to be coming from the back part of the engine. What could this be? Water pump maybe? I know it could be several things, but any ideas would help greatly! Thanks a lot - Ryan :p

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Old 10-24-2002, 07:42 AM
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Do a search on "tumbler". You need to replace it before it won't turn anymore.
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Old 10-24-2002, 09:22 AM
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Is this really expensive to replace? It has only done this once, but I'm afraid it might get worse. Do you know what causes it to not turn? Thanks
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Old 10-24-2002, 10:45 AM
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It is a diyer type of job. The tumbler (with key) is only around $75 at the dealer. You do not want it to get where it WILL NOT turn. If it gets there you are probably talking $300+. You need your VIN to get the right key/tumbler for your car. Get in touch with Phil here at PartsShop or from your local dealer.

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