Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Tech Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-05-2003, 11:03 PM
lleon1999
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
420SEL Idle Valve Voltage

Does anyone know what the voltage should be at the idle control valve connector while the car is at normal operating temperarure and at idle?

I performed the current test described in the manual and I mesured about 960 mA which is within specs. However, the voltage is less than 5 Volts. None of the manuals I read indicate the voltage. Correct me if I am wrong, but the voltage should always be 12 Volts while the current varies regulating the valve opening. Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Leon

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-06-2003, 03:47 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: west orange, NJ
Posts: 47
Not sure what the correct voltage should be but I had reason to check mine on a 1991 420 SEL just this past weekend and if I remember it was about 5 volts. Through the probes, i could feel the regulator "dithering".

J.Chip
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-06-2003, 03:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 481
leon, you are correct it should be 12V. Checked the forum and found this discussion.
86 560SEL cold start/rough idle
Unfortunately, not sure why this would occur.
m
__________________
Martin Ingram
Colorado Springs
2005 320 CDI
2006.5 VW Jetta TDI
1991 560SEL (179000 Sold)
1972 280SEL 4.5 ('The Lead Sled' 320000 miles when sold.)
1972 220D (225000 when sold)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-06-2003, 04:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 481
Thanks Steve.
That makes a lot of sense.
martin
__________________
Martin Ingram
Colorado Springs
2005 320 CDI
2006.5 VW Jetta TDI
1991 560SEL (179000 Sold)
1972 280SEL 4.5 ('The Lead Sled' 320000 miles when sold.)
1972 220D (225000 when sold)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-06-2003, 04:54 PM
lleon1999
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thanks Steve. Your answer makes sense. I am assuming that this is the reason why none of the shop manuals give a DC voltage. Based on the reading of 960 mA, I will assume that the controler board is functioning correctly and that perhaps my idle valve is defective. Right?

Leon
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-06-2003, 05:35 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Gainesville FL
Posts: 6,844
If you look at the signal with a scope you will see a square wave at battery voltage with a constant frequency and a varying duty cycle.

What this means is that the valve is being pulsed against the spring that opens it. Depending how your volt meter sees this one usually sees the average voltage with a 50% duty cycle and 13v idle voltage most meters would see 6.5volts. The controller has the capability to go to 70% duty cycle on or off (I think). This would place the control range between 9.1 and 3.9v with an averaging voltmeter. Instantaneously the voltage is either battery voltage or zero.

__________________
Steve Brotherton
Continental Imports
Gainesville FL
Bosch Master, ASE Master, L1
33 years MB technician
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page