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Old 05-29-2003, 11:45 PM
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"Safe Oil Change" .... Amazing!

The beleaguered fast oil change industry had to do something to counter the horror stories of loose drain plugs and being the highest consumer of short blocks in the automotive industry ...

…so as they say in marketing, here is a new differentiator: Safe Oil Changes!

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Old 05-30-2003, 12:02 AM
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A great idea, especially for us MB owners with Aluminum oil pans. Mine got stripped nearly smooth, and took some creative thinking to sidestep $400 in labor to replace the pan...
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Gee Whiz Boss! Was that torque spec in Newton-Meters, inch-pounds, or foot-pounds?



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Old 05-30-2003, 06:54 AM
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So I'm doing my best to understand how using a torque wrench prevents one of these bozo's from CROSS THREADING the drain plug.

The last thing I would do is leave one of my cars in the hands of these people.

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Old 05-30-2003, 07:53 AM
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Do it yourself and do it right - or at least go to a reputable garage where you have some history with the mech.

btw, some of the horror stories I've heard about those places include NOT tightening the drain plug at all. You can have the right tools, but if you forget to use them ......

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Old 05-30-2003, 04:21 PM
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Gee Whiz Boss! Was that torque spec in Newton-Meters, inch-pounds, or foot-pounds?
Good one. Dyne-Centimeters, I think.

Will the torque wrench ensure that they use the correct filter (Honey, what is that puddle on the driveway?) and the proper quantity of oil (Excuse me sir, does your oil pressure gauge work?) even when their "super" duper computer has the wrong info?

Never again!

But it's below zero out, and I have a coupon... No! No! and No!

I wonder what sort of supreme competence led them to start handing out torque wrenches in the first place. Brilliant marketing spin, I suppose...
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Old 05-30-2003, 04:49 PM
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I really like that spiffy 7 dollar torque wrench they use. Those things are about as precise as a Bulldozer! I would loan him my new $400 digital Snap-On Wrench, But I need it for every nut and bolt on these cars.
That is a good selling point however, I will tell everyone that I am a "Safe Technician" and not a "Overtight'in Jim-Bob."
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Sorry about that last post. For some reason the computer posted the message before I had finished.

To finish. If you think the quick change oil boys are bad just check out the air pressure gauge at your local tire shop. If they work on trucks, as many do, the chances are good that the pressure is up around 175psi, and there is not a torque wrench in the place. A 1/2 in. torque wrench at 175psi can lock a lug nut on to the point that no wrench you have in the car at 2am on a lonely road in the rain will get that nut off. I speak from experience.

I had the tires on my 450slc balanced in San Antonio last week and it took the lad longer to find the torque wrench than to balance the tires. I don't think he had ever used one.
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Hey Kip - if you use the edit button within your post, you can fix it or delete it - you'll see the options.

Yes, you bring up the other common torque problem - lug bolts. That's why I always take loose wheels, not the car. Two benefits to that - I do the torque right of course at 80 foot-pounds, and they can't demand that I buy H-rated tires for the car. I never tell them what car the wheel is from, I just tell them what tire and size. They're not happy, but they sell you the tire. Otherwise, they are prevented by policy from selling you anything speed-rated lower than their computer says they have to put on the car.

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I didn't know that about not selling you tires that are less than what their computer calls for. The only other car I have ever had that would require special tires was a 280slc that I brought back from Dubai in 1983. I didn't have to buy tires for it, but I think that had I had to no tire store in S. Texas would have been aware of such speed limits. Hell, I don't think that there was even speed classifications on tires then.
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Talking That is comical.

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The beleaguered fast oil change industry had to do something to counter the horror stories of loose drain plugs and being the highest consumer of short blocks in the automotive industry ...

…so as they say in marketing, here is a new differentiator: Safe Oil Changes!

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That is comical.

Too funny.
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I would let my WIFE change my oil before I let any of those outfits touch my car!
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Got a good chuckle outa that last post, all respects to your wife.
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I would let my WIFE change my oil before I let any of those outfits touch my car!
Hey now! There are some people working at these places that ARE competent (for instance...my self). Not that I'll be working there forever, but I have to pay for a (college) education somehow.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:37 PM
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Take a closer look at the picture... Maybe they do have tq wrenches, but they sure don't know how to use one!!!

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