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Old 05-07-2004, 12:00 PM
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O2 sensor replacement, how often?

Hi All,

According to the Maint. Sheet from the CD, it's required that I replace my O2 sensor every 30k mi. This right?


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Old 05-07-2004, 01:17 PM
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Judging from past & plenty experiences with O2 sensors, I would suggest that you can double that.
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Old 05-07-2004, 01:29 PM
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Changed at 55K...

My mechanic hooked up the reader and checked the response time. He checked at 45k and noticed they were getting slow. Finally at 55k, the check engine light came on and they were replaced. Fairly starightforward DIY job on the C280. Took me about 1 hour. Each one cost about $90. Get the OEM sensor, the universal ones you need to splice the connectors, not a good thing to do.
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Old 05-07-2004, 01:30 PM
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thanks,

thanks... since I'm at 70K now and don't know if it's ever been replace... will do so shortly...

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PS> What are the symptoms of failure of the sensor if any
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98K orig. mi. @7/15
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Neuspeed springs/Bilstein Sport
4/3 bump (F/R)

'97 993 Carrera
106K orig. mi.
Always driven like it's stolen
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Old 05-07-2004, 02:18 PM
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On the W201, the odometer tripped the O2 sensor light at approximtely 60K miles. Symptoms of a totally failed sensor: fuel fouled spark plugs (wet); really bad gas mileage; running extremely rich. The sensor doesn't really affect start up much, since it only comes into play once it reaches operating temp in the exhaust system, so initially the car may seem fine, but a minute or so later, you should notice. For a sensor that's marginal, the symptoms may be less dramatic.
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Old 05-07-2004, 02:58 PM
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Thumbs up spark plugs...

Thanks for the info. Last time I changed my plugs 1 or 2 were kind of wet. I was thinking it might be a prob with fuel injectors. Didn't realize the O2 sensor might have something to do with it. Will check plugs as I have new ones on hand and start from there....


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'97 993 Carrera
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:57 PM
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In the early days of O2 sensors, manufacturers were concerned about their life and didn't want to get stuck with replacement under the 50K mile emission warranty.

My erstwhile '84 190E 2.3 had a light that the odometer activated at 30K miles to notify the owner that a change was required. If done, the tech removed the bulb from the light. There was no other subsequent change recommended - just the one at 30K miles. When my light came on I removed the bulb. When I sold the car at 49K it still had the original O2 sensor. It ran normally and passed emissions.

The maintenance schedule on my '88 190e 2.6 recommends replacing the O2 sensor at 60K and there is no reminder light like on the '84, but my CA model has some health checks and diagnostics including the O2 sensor. At 75K miles my O2 is original, and it functions properly based on a duty cycle check and scope check of the O2 sensor output about a year ago.

Bottom line is tha O2 sensors are getting more reliable, and there is no need to change them at an arbitrary mileage. You can wait until you get an O2 sensor fault code if your model has O2 sensor diagnostics, and if your car fails emissions, a check of the duty cycle and O2 sensor output is warranted. If you don't have the knowledge and equipment to check these functions and don't want to pay to have it done (assuming you can find a competent tech who can actually perform these tasks) then you can change the O2 sensor at an arbitrary mileage or if you fail an emission test, but you may be replacing a perfectly good sensor.

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Old 05-07-2004, 04:22 PM
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sensor

Got it... I'll just wait for the symptoms since it's like $100... hehehe

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'97 993 Carrera
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Always driven like it's stolen
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Old 05-07-2004, 05:43 PM
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I have never replaced an O2 sensor on a preventive maintenance basis. My 300E has over 265,000 miles and it is original. Engine runs perfect.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Old 05-07-2004, 06:51 PM
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Larry, thats my experience witht he 91 300E. It had 120k when we bought it and now has 230k with the same O2 sensor.

What kind of mileage do you get with your 5spd?

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Old 05-08-2004, 12:59 PM
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My '91 300E has started to have a rough idle recently. I just checked the plugs and it's obviously running rich.

The car has 65K on it. I have to take it in to have some work done so I guess I'll have them replace the 02 sensor. Is there anything that needs to be checked or adjusted when the sensor is changed on this vehicle?

BTW, I've been looking at buying a new E-Class so putting a few hundred into my pristine 300E is peanuts compared to buying a new car. The difference in license plates here in Arizona is about $700 between my 300E and a new E320.

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Old 05-30-2004, 09:23 PM
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Bud,

Email me please.

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Bud,

Email me please.

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