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Old 06-25-2004, 09:35 AM
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OVP's purpose in life is????

Ok, its a relay and has a fuse, so its to protect the electrical system / control voltage, it seems like.

What goes through there? I mean from X to OVP to Y.. what's x and Y?

Faulty relay & fuse doesn't, blow yet ovp goes dead?

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Old 06-25-2004, 10:37 AM
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I believe the OVP also has a zener diode.

In short, it's also a surge-protector for the car's sensitive electronics.

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Old 06-25-2004, 03:47 PM
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And some dimwit ever decides to jump-start your car with the cables in reverse polarity, you'll be glad you have an OVP!
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The purpose of the OVP????

Not that I've had much dealings with them, but as far as I can tell they are:

1. Another example of "Let's over engineer something"
2. The root of all evil
3. A practical joke
4. Totally unnecessary
5. A scapegoat to blame every driveability problem on
6. Probably the easiest part to throw at a car by mechanics without a clue
7. A guaranteed source of income for the manufacturer until the last cars with them vanish from the face of the earth

Other than that they're good things to have.
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Old 06-26-2004, 07:20 PM
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Actually the OVP is quite a device, so simple, so efficient and absolutely a piece of cake to diagnose.

It's simple efficiency assures the worlds two most durable computers the long life they are noted for. I have replaced more GM computers (and I don't work on GM cars) than I have KE controllers and ABS controllers combined.

And if it weren't for OVPs, those who haven't a clue would have to start throwing expensive parts at it right away. Think how much money is saved by throwing an OVP at it first rather than a KE controller.
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If they're so great, then why don't ALL cars have them? And why doesn't MB use them anymore?
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It's simple efficiency assures the worlds two most durable computers the long life they are noted for. I have replaced more GM computers (and I don't work on GM cars) than I have KE controllers and ABS controllers combined.
Good points. BUT, it would have been nice if the OVP protected the MAS control unit, so a bad AC clutch wouldn't require replacement of the clutch AND the control unit.

I wonder if an in-line fuse in the 12V line to the AC clutch would help.
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I believe on another Mercedes list people have placed fuses on the A/C clutch, aux. water pump and mono-valve to keep from "frying" the HVAC/Climate Control unit.

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They don't protect the MAS because they are the MAS. OVPs didn't disappear they just aquired different names and definitely got more complicated. The succesors are variously called MAS, BASE, and most recently are the group of relays called K40/x.

I guess GM never used them because it was easy to throw a controller at a GM car as they are only a little more than double the cost of a OVP (late model) and they failed more often than OVPs anyway.
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:38 PM
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I don't have a problem changing OVP's every other month, in lieu of something more serious screwing up, such as ....well any of the expensive $XXX little computers / controller/ modules.... our cars have , this surge that takes our OVP's out? What is up with that? I mean, you are not typically supposed to be changing fuses / relays every other month or year for that matter?

Where's the weak point that takes these OVP's out? I mean, talking "fuses" , for example, if my stereo in the car, takes a fuse out, you know it could just be a fluke, but most likely it is a short somewhere, or the wrong size fuse, or a spike, or...you know I could find , most likely, what caused it to blow and fix the problem so no more fuses...

I am just going to carry a spare ovp and fuel pressure reg.


on a side note, I see how easily a dishonest dealer svc or mechanic could easily ream 1-2-3 mercedes owner's azz when they come in for repair.(AND this is where some might say "oh its soo expensive to maintain.. no sh.it, go pay $859 for a brake job )... NOT saying they are all like that, just the dishonest ones...you know he's got to meet $ quota or has the payment due on the loan for the shop or his pretty little mercedes "next two ovps coming through the door, lets charge them for new cc modules or some other control unit, $1K.." ching ching....

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I always blame the OVP as the cause of famine in 3rd world countries....
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Old 06-28-2004, 01:18 PM
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So life expectancy is??

SO how often are u guys replacing the ovp, finally? and the fuel pressure regulator? Or is a fluke ? Nah, they seem to be going on alot of cars regularly, just not sure how often on same cars...
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Re: So life expectancy is??

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SO how often are u guys replacing the ovp, finally? and the fuel pressure regulator?
Well, I've never replaced either on our cars.....
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Never touched my OVP. KE 'puter did take a dump, though. go figure.

I realize this post will result in a blown OVP in the near future.
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[i]I realize this post will result in a blown OVP in the near future. [/B]
LOL:p Dont blame me for that. LOL ....

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