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Old 08-26-2015, 07:16 PM
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Help me ID this mess....

I've seen this 'coupe' outside a shop for the past five weeks or so. I haven't stopped and asked about it yet, I'm not sure what is holding me up from doing so. I don't know if it's for sale, I don't know the shop (it's new to the area, not an MB shop by history) All I saw was a partial VIN that started with W108...I hate to start a post in such a vague way but I'm wondering if any of you have seen this type of clip where the ragtop WOULD go. It is metal.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:53 AM
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It looks like someone is making a parade vehicle. That is only my guess due to what looks like fiberglass work showing that will be covered by the rear seat.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:20 PM
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That is a Frankensedan. A convertible of the type this vehicle wants to become would have a VIN that starts with 111. The coupes and cabriolets shared many parts with the W108/109 sedans. The chassis was W111. My guess is that custom body work has deleted the rear door seam.

I understand the impulse to rescue an animal that has been hit by a car laying helplessly on the roadside. For the amount of money it would take to convert this project into a cabriolet you could probably buy one, and have a resale value if you wanted to liquidate.

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Old 08-27-2015, 02:42 PM
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Mess indeed. Def a 108 sedan. Does not appear anywhere up to the level of conversions we've seen on this forum before (such as the 116 cabrio). Projects like this are usually started by someone with the time to do them, sometimes already having the donor car, and sometimes (surprise!) with the skill to do them, but not the money to purchase an ACTUAL 111 cabrio.

111 Cabrios start around $70k or so in good DD condition these days. This car, as it sits, isn't even a $700 car.
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I agree. The bits and pieces would add up for 'repurposing' to folks here on the forum. I really want to see what it looks like under the skin. I will be sure to keep you posted.
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Old 08-28-2015, 08:14 AM
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I like that big air scoop to cool what is obviously a trunk-mounted flat-12 install.

Value? Impossible to estimate accurately with today's skyrocketing prices.

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A true HACK-JOB. And chopping off a unibody sedan roof to make a 'cabrio' is a very bad idea!

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The VIN and rear end definitely say sedan. So there's not much question here, other than...

Why?

Why would you put that big scoop in the rear end? Was it to accommodate some large rear seat? Was it for the trunk torsion rods or something? I just don't get it. Was it some part of the structure? I just don't understand how that would help.

It is neat to see the "innovations" of others. So thank you for sharing.

As a parts car, I don't see a ton of diminished value other than the lack of doors and a rear seat.
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They did build a square tube frame on top of the rockers and across the back seat floor to help stiffness. Domestic USA front drive cars added deeper rockers and a 6" tall U channel on top of the center tunnel to bring back some stifness.

I'd hope they took measurements before and after cutting. The proper way is to measure to a datum line below the floor, cut roof, prop up car until the center is a bit high, weld in reinforcements then let car down.

The rear scoop is odd and really pushes the project towards a mess, the round hole mesh makes me think 60's design. As are front doors not having inner panels, I wonder if they even open.

There was a " permanent " convertible built on the R107 SLC chassis that was directed to the California market but they were not hot sellers.
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There was a " permanent " convertible built on the R107 SLC chassis that was directed to the California market but they were not hot sellers.
Really? More info please.
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I can't find where I saw the SLC , might have been Wikipedia ( though that makes the info slightly suspect ) . The pic was of the right rear 3/4 though.

I did find the thread speaking about your aftermarket conversion car.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1599591-slc-convertible.htm
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I can't find where I saw the SLC , might have been Wikipedia ( though that makes the info slightly suspect ) . The pic was of the right rear 3/4 though.

I did find the thread speaking about your aftermarket conversion car.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c107-sl-slc-class/1599591-slc-convertible.htm
Yeah. That's me. There was recently an even nicer conversion found for sale on cape cod, it was so similar to mine, but not a 5.0, but a nicer job.
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