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03-26-2016, 02:39 PM
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Gear stick shift pattern
I have a W111 1961 with a 280S engine and manual gearbox .
The gear stick (floor shift) shift pattern is not right . 1. gear to the left and Down . 2. gear to the left and up . 3. gear to the right and Down . 4. gear to the right and up . Reverse gear all the way to the right and Down . The levers on the side of the gearbox : Front lever pointing up . Mittle lever pointing Down . Rear lever pointing up . Can someone help me with this problem ? Michael from Denmark 
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03-26-2016, 03:15 PM
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Can you provide some photos of the gearbox and shift linkage(s)? So that we may see what type of gearbox has been installed.
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03-26-2016, 07:07 PM
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When you said that the gearbox had three levers, it indicated that it was from a later series of cars, and indeed it is. That gearbox design was introduced in Jan. 1968 for the "/8" cars (W114/115). All three levers should point up. The front (3rd & 4th) lever and the rear (1st & 2nd) are flat. The center lever should have an offset to the outside (left). Since it is flat and pointed down it came from a column shift installation, and we might well think that the whole gearbox came from a column shift. I am at a loss to explain why the 1-2 & 3-4 lever directions are reversed. 1st should be left & forward, 2nd left & aft, etc. Last edited by Frank Reiner; 03-26-2016 at 07:19 PM.
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03-29-2016, 01:50 PM
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That is simply a casting number.
Can you supply pictures of the shifting linkage, both from above (next to the seat), and from below (in the tunnel) that is mounted to the floor of the car?
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04-02-2016, 12:24 PM
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Relly need help here !
Now I have taken the shifter rods off .
When sitting in the car , LHD car - The left shift lever is connected to the 1/2 gear lever on the gearbox , this lever is pointing upwards . The mid shift lever is connected to the 3/4 gear lever on the gearbox , this lever is pointing upwards . The right shift lever is connected to the revers gear lever on the gearbox , this lever is pointing downwards . Moving the gearstick to the most left and down engage 1. gear . Moving gearstick to most left and up engage 2. gear . Moving gearstick to mid position and down engage 3. gear . Moving gearstick to mid position and up engage 4. gear . Moving gearstick to most right and down engage reverse gear . This is the shift pattern when I drive the car . With the shifter rods off the gear box , I can move the mid lever (reverse gear) to engage gear if I move it to the back , moving lever forward , neutral , move lever more forward it engage gear Again ??? Do I have a 5 speed gearbox ? Why this odd shift pattern ? Relly need help here ! Where do I find the gearbox number ? Michael from Denmark
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#8
04-03-2016, 02:48 PM
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If you reverse the upward and downward positions of the levers on the gear box and then connect the shift rods, does the shift pattern revert to normal?
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#9
04-03-2016, 03:41 PM
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The middle lever on the floor shifter should connect to the rear lever (1-2) on the gearbox. The right lever on the floor shifter should connect to the front lever (3-4) on the gearbox. The shift pattern is odd because 1) the floor shift levers are connected to the wrong gearbox levers, and 2) the reverse lever on the gearbox is inverted.
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04-09-2016, 07:38 PM
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From what I'm reading, if you can remove, rotate & refasten the 1-2 and 3-4 gearbox levers 180 degrees, so they're pointing down, and be able to reconnect those two shift-rods to them, that should solve the problem.
Happy Motoring, Mark
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#11
04-09-2016, 08:25 PM
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Mark:
You may have noticed that the OP has not been back for a week. The 1-2 and 3-4 levers on the gearbox are in the correct position; the reverse lever is inverted because the gearbox apparently came from a column shift car. However, the OP had the selector lever/shift rod connections scrambled, which is the cause of the odd pattern.
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#12
04-10-2016, 02:46 PM
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The OP stated 1 is "down" and 2 is "up", the same reversal going on with 3 & 4, and with their respective gearbox levers pointing up. Reverse gear seems to be OK where it is, unless it becomes necessary later to move it's shift-rod to a different quadrant on the shifter to move reverse next to where first gear should be, instead of where it is now, next to where fourth gear should be. No matter what rod is attached to what lever at the shifter, with this current setup, the only way I can see to move 1 to up and 2 to down, and make the same correction to the other two forward gears, is to be able to rotate the 1-2 and 3-4 levers on the gearbox 180 degrees so they're pointing down. If he's lucky, the shift rods will then hook up and work properly. Otherwise, this may start a lengthy project of swapping/adjusting/custom-fabricating shift rods. Happy Motoring, Mark
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DrDKW Last edited by Mark DiSilvestro; 04-10-2016 at 08:32 PM.
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#13
04-10-2016, 04:08 PM
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End result
OK , I have now the correct shift pattern .
I only have the car for a couple of month , and did not know what the PO did to the car . First of all its a 5 speed gearbox (was told it was a 4 speed) Did turn all levers at the gearbox so its now pointing down . The shift rods turn out to have a much better routing and the shift pattern is now right . 5. gear most to the right and up , reverse also most right and Down . Will test ride it NeXT week . Michael
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