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Old 08-09-2024, 04:30 PM
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Muffler Question ? W108 V8 and 6 Cylinder the same?

I am wanting to know if the OEM Mufflers for the V8 and 6 Cylinder are in fact the same muffler and or the same length or not



The " Front Muffler " especially ? are they the same muffler ?

Or ? well a V8 Muffler fit to a 6 Cylinder SE W108

Are they the same length


My 1970 you can't get a original OEM Muffler anywhere but anyway if they are the same Muffler is the Question

(I Have a Line on a Good V8 W 108 set of front and rear mufflers )



Mine is a 1970 SE 6 Cylinder with a bad front OEM muffler
and I Have a Line on a V8 Muffler and they look the same ?
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Old 08-09-2024, 10:25 PM
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The front is actually what we Yanks would call the center muffler. The Germans call it the front.
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Old 08-10-2024, 04:53 PM
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The front is actually what we Yanks would call the center muffler. The Germans call it the front.

LOL I am part German I knew it ha ha ha
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Old 08-09-2024, 10:41 PM
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ANSA number for six cyl is ME 1407.

ANSA number for the 4.5 is ME 1107.

Those are numbers for the rear muffler. I used a 1973 as the model year. The web site I was looking at didn't give specs. so I don't know the difference in size.

You might check evil bay. These show up there a lot
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Old 08-10-2024, 01:18 AM
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Looking at the timevalve website the rear 6cyl and V8 muffler are the same part. The front muffler is integral with the exhaust pipe so it is different part# due to the differences of the 6/8 cyl headpipe routing. But based on the rear muffler being the same I would assume the front would be the same but not the attached exhaust pipe. So you would need to weld the 4.5 front muffler to your front exhaust pipe.
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Old 08-10-2024, 03:31 PM
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This is a good posting since if a person takes their car to a muffler shop they are going to slap on whatever they have in stock.

And while we are used to Mercedes like these being used as a daily driver it is best to remember we are looking for parts for a fifty year old car.

I started doing old cars in 1970. Trying to find parts for a 1920 Franklin was not easy. For all the hate the internet gets it is a wonderful thing to have for those of us deranged enough to like these older Mercedes.
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Old 08-10-2024, 04:11 PM
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[QUOTE=Idle;4325500]This is a good posting

Just in V8 Measurements ( 1973 Mercedes w 108 sedan )
Rear 24 " Long
Front 15" Long ( Center )
Now I must go measure the 1970 SE 6 Cylinder set on the Car already Jacked up

Yup Just Measured and they are different ( V8 & 6 Cylinder )
The 6 Cylinder 1970 SE Just Measured* Mine*** FRONT is 13 inches long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rear is 23 Inches long
So they are different but they can work if I shorten the Front Pipes 2 inches
And the Back Muffler may just squeeze in V8 8 is 1 inch longer humm
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Old 08-10-2024, 03:41 PM
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Thanks All > Most all Cars Mufflers are " Motor Specific " and these W 108 Series may also be motor specific However perhaps differences are "internal differences" Rather than External ? IE : The Outside Measurements may be the same or Close >
As we Mercedes Owners Know these Mercedes have a distinctive sound and just any Muffler may not Please one's expectations >
Beyond That what's available like stainless like timevavle as example are Very expensive> Most Likely Good workarounds are out their using a Muffler from some other Car however then you have the Sound Issue back to square 1 Humm /
As the Front Muffler ( Called Center Yes ) is really like 2 Mufflers ( Dual inside Pipes )
I think the least Costly Good system (Center Muffler) is 2 Quality Glass Packs side by side perhaps Tack Welded together for added stability would work well but lacking 1 Big Issue that they don't look OEM at all as that's a True Issue to consider yes ? Talking Lower Overall Value due to visual appearance

All these Things considered Raise my Interest in a Good Condition OEM Muffler Set Evan from a V8 perhaps > That said I may be in for a surprise to discover a 6 Cylinder with a V8 Muffler sounds like a Helicopter LOL
Makes Me think ?: Well I don't want a Chevy in it or a Helicopter keeping Original is challenging

So what I have learned is that a Good OEM Muffler has a lot Value at least until they fail
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Old 08-11-2024, 12:48 AM
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Once I cut some rusted out mufflers in half to see what the construction is. They are just basically glass packed dual in/out-no chambers.
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