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12-21-2002, 08:24 PM
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What to do with this old transmission?
Okay after selling the engine out of the 72 250 I'm left with a partially cooked transmission. Should I disect it out of curiosity or could I actually repair this thing?
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12-22-2002, 07:01 AM
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You could donate it too your local rebuilder (IF he needs or wants it).
I have a good one sitting in my garage that I don't know what to do with, so I dunno...
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12-22-2002, 05:16 PM
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You need a bunch of pullers and other specialty tools just to get it apart, to say nothing of back together. I would go with Ed's suggestion and donate it to a local shop for a future favor.
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12-22-2002, 07:54 PM
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Wich one do you have? DAN
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http://w3.uqo.ca/gravelle/images/250S/flood.jpg DAN 1967 250s The Monster Project a.k.a "The Monster" a.k.a "Rolling Coffin" --sold-- The photographic ART thread +++Price Guide+++
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12-23-2002, 06:41 AM
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It is from a 68 250s, so it fits the back of a M180.
$200+shipping. It looks to have been rebuilt recently because it is free of any grease or accumulation compared to the engine, not even a film of oil on it. But I can't vouch for it. I pulled it for my car, but found out the bearing noise was the rear end.
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12-23-2002, 12:48 PM
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Are you sure you have a 180 engine!? because according to www.mbz.org/sys/mbmodels/motor you should have a 108.920 engine! 108 920 250S Sedan 108 012 1965-1969 180 920 220 Sedan 187 011 1951-1953 0 180 920 220 Sedan 187 014 1951-1953 0 With Sliding Roof 180 920 220 Cab A Cabriolet 187 012 1951-1954 0 180 920 220 Cab B Cabriolet 187 013 1951-1954 0 180 920 220 Coupe 187 015 1954-1955 0 180 920 219 Sedan 105 000 1956-1959 Ambulance, partial body, 4 doors 180 920 219 Sedan 105 010 1956-1959 180 920 219 Sedan 105 011 1956-1959 Sliding roof 180 921 220a Sedan 180 010 1954-1956 0 180 924 220S Cabriolet 180 030 1956-1959 0 180 924 220S Sedan 180 010 1956-1959 180 924 220S Sedan 180 011 1956-1959 0 Sunroof 180 924 220S Coupe 180 037 1957-1959 0 180 940 220b Sedan 111 010 1959-1965 69691 180 941 220Sb Sedan 111 012 1959-1965 161119 180 945 230 Sedan 110 011 1965-1966 40258 180 947 230S Sedan 111 010 1965-1968 41107 180 949 230 Sedan 110 011 1965-1966 40258 7/66-1968 w/INAT carbs 180 954 230.6 Sedan 114 015 1967-1976 219208 180 954 230.6 Sedan 114 017 1967-1976 1131 3 what is the # on the tranny, is it something like GA230SL E XXXXXX (a.k.a. K4A.025 this is the one i'm looking for) or more like 1082701 00026 ? Better yet, do you have a pic of it? In any case, i'll have to wait till summer to see if i can fix it or buy one. But i'm starting my search now in case i do need one, so any information would be welcome. Thanks DAN
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http://w3.uqo.ca/gravelle/images/250S/flood.jpg DAN 1967 250s The Monster Project a.k.a "The Monster" a.k.a "Rolling Coffin" --sold-- The photographic ART thread +++Price Guide+++
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12-23-2002, 01:46 PM
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You are correct, it is a M108.
It is just that I have only seen references to the M180 engine in literature...I am confused... The engine says 108. Sorry.
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12-24-2002, 12:44 AM
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No problem 240 ed
If it is a K4A.025 i'm very much interested in it. Do's it include the torque converter and the kickdown silenoid switch on top of it? Again, if you happen to have the serial #, it would be greatly apreciated. Here are pics from the CD. thanks DAN
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http://w3.uqo.ca/gravelle/images/250S/flood.jpg DAN 1967 250s The Monster Project a.k.a "The Monster" a.k.a "Rolling Coffin" --sold-- The photographic ART thread +++Price Guide+++
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12-24-2002, 12:45 AM
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more......
DAN
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http://w3.uqo.ca/gravelle/images/250S/flood.jpg DAN 1967 250s The Monster Project a.k.a "The Monster" a.k.a "Rolling Coffin" --sold-- The photographic ART thread +++Price Guide+++
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12-24-2002, 12:50 AM
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those are great pictures BTW...
Yes, it is one and the same. 16 bolt pan, etc. And yeah, it doesn't have the name of the trans on it, but it says 230 sl on the plate. It has the solenoid, but I left the fluid drive in the junkyard.
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Ed 1981 300CD (Benzina) 1968 250 S (Gina) 266,000 miles! 1983 Alfa Romeo GTV6 (Guido) 1976 Jaguar XJS-saved a V-12 from the chevy curse, what a great engine! 1988 Cadillac Eldorado (better car than you might think!) 1988 Yamaha Venture (better than a Wing!) 1977 Suzuki GS750B 1976 Yamaha XS 650 (sold) 1991 Suzuki GSX1100G (Shafty Gixser) 1981 Yamaha VX920RH (Euro "Virago") Solex Moped 1975 Dodge P/U camper "Time spent in the company of a cat, a beer, and this forum, is not time wasted!"
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12-24-2002, 01:22 AM
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 , It's also a part in demand  If you'r not in a hury to part with, I'll surely be in touch with you late spring early summer as soon as I know if mine is dead. I also have a tranny (with converter) to part with, It's from a 1971 280S/SE #1082701 00026 it came with a lot of part with my carwitch Former howner got from a closing MB shop, v'been tolled that it works. But I can't vouch for it. DAN
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http://w3.uqo.ca/gravelle/images/250S/flood.jpg DAN 1967 250s The Monster Project a.k.a "The Monster" a.k.a "Rolling Coffin" --sold-- The photographic ART thread +++Price Guide+++
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12-25-2002, 04:44 AM
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The difference that I can discern between the fluid drive coupler and a true torque converter, is that the engine remains directly hooked to the gearbox at all times other than at a stop. The next time you drive a torque converter, notice this; When you let off the gas before coming to a stop sign (lets say...) The engine speed will drop down and the car will sort of coast more... It is a small distinction, but there it is.  and yeah, I can hold onto it for now. I don't have a SO to bug me about keeping crap around. 
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Ed 1981 300CD (Benzina) 1968 250 S (Gina) 266,000 miles! 1983 Alfa Romeo GTV6 (Guido) 1976 Jaguar XJS-saved a V-12 from the chevy curse, what a great engine! 1988 Cadillac Eldorado (better car than you might think!) 1988 Yamaha Venture (better than a Wing!) 1977 Suzuki GS750B 1976 Yamaha XS 650 (sold) 1991 Suzuki GSX1100G (Shafty Gixser) 1981 Yamaha VX920RH (Euro "Virago") Solex Moped 1975 Dodge P/U camper "Time spent in the company of a cat, a beer, and this forum, is not time wasted!"
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