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Originally Posted by kerry
Two problems with that. We all sin because God created a world with original sin in it. The fact that we each hold the key to salvation is irrelevant. An omnipotent God created the world the way it is and then blames us for our actions in the world he created with eternal punishment. God is responsible for these conditions and not us. God is the one who deserves punishment and not humans.
Christianity does not say that we each hold the key to salvation. We can only have faith if God gives us grace, so salvation is in the hands of God not us.
The whole shebang only makes sense if the we accept the view that God is the absolute source of moral value and whatever God does and commands is right solely because God commands it.
I think maintaining independent moral judgment is central to human existence and my moral compass tells me that if I punish my own child for behavior which I was responsible for creating, just isn't fair.
That's why I think the orthodox Christian God should be opposed on moral principle.
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I understand your view. Seems like a pretty straight-forward stating of what is essentially humanism.
We disagree, agreeably so (again).