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aklim · #87 09-11-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bbail2x2

and its not Ham thats in jail its Dr. Kent Hovind. (get a clue?) thats what happens when you fight with the IRS. and yes the offer has stood for a long time with no takers. if you are sure of your evidence try it out. You and F.I. can get together and show them what you have and walk away with $250 big ones. I may not be the smartest guy about creationism but you will be had with someone who does know. you won't stand a chance trying to prove a lie to a real scientist.

Dr Kent Hovind is in jail for 10 yrs for a bunch offenses. His "Doctorate" is flakey at best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind

Education

In 1971 he graduated from East Peoria Community High School in East Peoria, Illinois. From 1972 until 1974, Hovind attended the non-accredited Midwestern Baptist College and received a Bachelor of Religious Education (B.R.E.).[6] In 1988 and 1991 respectively, Hovind was awarded a master's degree and doctorate in Christian Education through correspondence from the non-accredited Patriot University in Colorado Springs, Colorado (now Patriot Bible University in Del Norte, Colorado which no longer offers this program).[11]
Front view of the Patriot Bible University in Del Norte, Colorado taken on November 22, 2006.
Front view of the Patriot Bible University in Del Norte, Colorado taken on November 22, 2006.

Having a website called "Dr. Dino," has provoked some academics to closely look at how Hovind presents his education and credentials.[12] Chemistry professor Karen Bartelt has said that it is "very unusual for a person with a Ph.D., even a real one," [emphasis in original] to list oneself in the phonebook as "Dr Hovind", as Hovind has done.[12] Barbara Forrest, a professor of philosophy, expert on the history of creationism and activist in the Creation-evolution controversy, wrote that Hovind's lack of academic training makes it impossible to engage him on a professional level.[13] Other critics of Hovind have charged that Patriot Bible University is a diploma mill, as it has unreasonably low graduation requirements, lack of sufficient faculty or educational standards, and a suspicious tuition scheme.[9] The school's current policies allow students to attain bachelor's degrees, master's degrees and even "Doctor of Ministry" degrees in months, rather than years, for as little as $25 per month. Currently Patriot offers a monthly fee, unlike most universities, which only charge per-credit fees.[14]

Bartelt has stated Hovind's doctoral dissertation is evidence of the poor requirements at Patriot and that Hovind lacks knowledge of basic science.[12] Bartelt noted that Hovind's dissertaton is incomplete (contains four chapters totaling 101 pages, but Hovind's introduction claims the work is 250 pages with 16 chapters), of low academic quality, poor writing, poor spelling, poor grammatical style, pages are repeated, references are absent, and it is not original work with original ideas.[12][15] In the past when questioned about his education and qualifications, Hovind has said his critics use ad hominem arguments.[11] Patriot Bible University has issued similar comments.[16]

Patriot will not send copies of Hovind's doctoral dissertation except with his permission.[12] As a general rule, doctoral dissertations are published by the associated university and made available to the public, so that other students conducting research in similar areas may use the information in the dissertation as a reference.[12] Although one copy of the dissertation is on file at the National Center for Science Education (NCSE) the organization is not able to provide it on request because of copyright and distribution restrictions.[12]

Even at face value, he isn't a scientist of any sort.