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Old 12-15-2009, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Wasn't Saul blinded till he "reformed"?

Neither did Charles Manson. What's your point? that if you are low caste, what you say is right automatically?

You just have to swear allegiance to that deity is all. That is what govt is for today. For the unbelievers. That gives them something to swear allegiance to and have that govt now fix all their ills. See? Something for everyone.

Have him meet me at a public place at a time of my choosing and let him tell us instead of all kinds of insidious signs which could be interpreted any way you want. Good thing happen to you? Blessing. Bad thing happen? Part of a plan you cannot understand.

Define "gift", please. I think you are confusing it with "trade" or "barter". As I asked, can I have a helping of that gift if I don't swear allegiance or whatever it is you call it? If that is truly free, let me know. Otherwise, it is not a gift, as you put it.
Maybe gift isn't the correct word. I think grace would be better. An unearned gift given without expectation of return. Not to be confused with mercy.
What makes you think you have to swear allegience to God to recieve his grace?
You just don't get it.
God doesn't stand on a high moral ground and he doesn't expect you to.
Now your mixing in politics with religion? You really like to stir the pot don't you?

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