Figured I would start a new thread on this one. I found this site that offers Baldwin filters. I just ordered (6) Baldwin filters through www.adiesel.com Use the "Baldwin Automotive Catalog" link. 6 filters with shipping was $95.00 Sure its more than most MB filters but I simply refuse to put filters with questionable media in my MB. Until someone can show me that the problem has been corrected I won't buy another Hengst, Mann, Knecht, etc. Baldwin has a very good reputation in the fleet and trucking industry so even if they subcontract out this filter it is likely made to fairly high standards. I can't speak for Associated Diesels service yet but they were close to me, offered online ordering and a decent price with volume discounting. Guess I'm the guinea pig on this one.... RT

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I agree with you on Baldwin's reputation, but has one actually been torn apart?

Just wondering...thanks!

This one was discussed in one of the megathreads and IIRC it is paper? top and bottom but it is divided into main and bypass sections. Unlike the all paper wix 51385 which is not divided, it is a full flow filter.

The Baldwin number is P102, I think.

I am cheap but I came away convinced that the Baldwin is worth the money.

I am referring to filters for the 617.

Edit: In one of those threads someone said the Fram Ch2930 looked good. That filter is made in Hungary. I don't think anyone cut one open to see what is inside. I bought two of them at Pep Boys and they do look good outside.

The NAPA Gold filter is divided into two sections also, or at least it appeared to be. When I change it about First of Dec I will rip apart and see.

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As an additional note - The two sections are divided internally as well. It looks like there would be a good seal to prevent flow from one section to another.

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RWT,

I have been doing some research on the filter for the 603. Apparently Baldwin purchases it from Champion Labs Luberfiner division.

In further discussions with Luberfiner, it appears that Luberfiner also purchases the filter for both the 603 and the 617 from somebody else! I could not get them to divulge this info.

I have received the limited engineering specification for the Luberfiner filter for both engines. The 617 appears to be a bypass filter with 242 square inches of paper and it has a 20 micron rating. There is even more limited data in the 603 filter. I have requested Champion to go back to the manufacturer for more data and they agreed to attempt to do this.

I am going to buy a case of the filters for the 603 and see what I get.
What is interesting, however, is that the price for each filter will likely be about $11.00. This is significantly less than Baldwin and about $1.00 less than OE. They have confirmed that the filter includes the O-ring and copper sealing washers.

This whole business of oil filters is fraught with murky dealings between "manufacturers" and "distributors". You cannot figure out who the ultimate manufacturer of the filter really is.

If you need a source for the Baldwins, check out Zoro Tools Industrial Supplies just dont buy up so many they raise the prices!

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Call me stupid or lazy, but I couldnt find the P102 on there...

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Filter Products - equipment parts - Donaldson, Baldwin, Des-Case, Wilson, Ingersoll Rand - alternators, air & electrical starters, bag, engine & hydraulic filters, bearings

This is where I just bought my P102s. Around 14.00
Be careful to pick the Baldwin filter.
The have a Donaldson replacement that pops up when
you search for "P102" Might be just as good, but for 2 bucks
more I got the genuine Baldwins. Bought a bunch of filters
for my WVO, as well. Cheapest I found online.

Jeff

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“Let's take a drive into the middle of nowhere with a packet of Marlboro lights and talk about our lives.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Well from other places, if you order a bunch, it seems like you can get them in the $16-18 range...

How much is a Mann these days?

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1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (116k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
2008 ML320 CDI (199k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (267k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K), 1985 300D (233K), 1993 300D 2.5T (338k), 1993 300SD (291k)

I pay around $15 locally for Mann. I have seen prices all over the place for online ordering ($10 to $22).

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2002 e320 4matic estate│1985 300d│1980 300td
Previous: 1979 & 1982 & 1983 300sd │ 1982 240d

“Let's take a drive into the middle of nowhere with a packet of Marlboro lights and talk about our lives.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Note the Hastings LF380 is the same filter and on some sites sells for less.

When I ask Baldwin for some information in the past at the bottom of the page it had Baldwin/Hastings a the person the Email came from.

Some info on the Hatings LF380
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/247597-napa-gold-filters-4.html

That http://www.zorotools.com/ tool place has the Hastings LF380 Oil filters for $10.28 each. If you purchase over $50 they claim free shipping.
Put the Hastings LF380 into the search box but when the page opens up you have to scroll down.
In My area Granger sells them.

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Not sure I understand everything being discussed... so Baldwin = Hastings = NAPA Gold?

Thanks

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2002 e320 4matic estate│1985 300d│1980 300td
Previous: 1979 & 1982 & 1983 300sd │ 1982 240d

“Let's take a drive into the middle of nowhere with a packet of Marlboro lights and talk about our lives.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Balwin=Hastings
Napa Gold is on their own; at least in California.

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