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Old 03-08-2005, 01:45 PM
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If the pressure bleeder is not full of brake fluid, it will empty the reservoir in seconds and fill the entire system with air.

The cost of a pump spray tank is low enough to trash after one use.
Last week there was a local sale where they went for $7.00 USD.

The cost of bad brakes = death or destruction.
Ummm I would do it at less than 100 psi... If you let the fliud flow that fast you have no idea what got into the line! I would think you could easily pull air into the system by the turbulence of high speed flow. If you bleed into a small catch container you can guage pretty closely when you need to refill the reservoir. Having raced an Austin Mini in SCCA back in the late 1970's I have a pretty good idea about the importance of good brakes.

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Old 03-08-2005, 01:48 PM
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Ummm I would do it at less than 100 psi... If you let the fliud flow that fast you have no idea what got into the line! I would think you could easily pull air into the system by the turbulence of high speed flow. If you bleed into a small catch container you can guage pretty closely when you need to refill the reservoir. Having raced an Austin Mini in SCCA back in the late 1970's I have a pretty good idea about the importance of good brakes.

Can you imagine the spray when you crak the bleeder at 100psi.....you better hope the spay or splash doesn't get in your eyes.
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OK,,,, in that case... while it should not be used next year for the brakes... it still could be used for weed killer....
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Old 03-08-2005, 02:19 PM
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Hmmm

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Ummm I would do it at less than 100 psi.
Where did 100 PSI come from?
A good NEW reservoir will explode at 40 - 50 PSI.
The critical factor is keeping the bleeder fluid level full enough that only pure fluid reaches the pickup.
The bleeder fluid maintains the reservoir fluid level, preventing air entering system.
Most systems bleed just fine at 2 - 5 PSI.
Some systems I have connected to and popped the reservoir off the master cylinder at 3 PSI, the mount grommets where junk.
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Old 03-08-2005, 02:26 PM
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If the pressure bleeder is not full of brake fluid, it will empty the reservoir in seconds and fill the entire system with air.
Has anyone considered drilling out the cap of the brake fluid container and putting in one long piece of tubing and one short one? Hook the sprayer to the short tube and the master cylinder to the long one. That way you could just use the sprayer to pressurize the brake fluid bottle. Run the whole quart through the system and then toss the empty bottle. Keep the modified cap and use the sprayer for other uses the rest of the year.
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Old 03-08-2005, 02:44 PM
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Has anyone considered drilling out the cap of the brake fluid container and putting in one long piece of tubing and one short one? Hook the sprayer to the short tube and the master cylinder to the long one. That way you could just use the sprayer to pressurize the brake fluid bottle. Run the whole quart through the system and then toss the empty bottle. Keep the modified cap and use the sprayer for other uses the rest of the year.
Most brake fluid bottles are ok for roughly 3 psi, but tend to explode at the seams or pop the lid off at higher pressure.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:54 PM
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I don't understand why people are putting the air pressure guage on this thing...
If you have any pressure it is going to work with gravity to do the job....
If you can get those tanks for that little... just fix a cap for each vehicle ( most people here have several ).... and do all your cars at the same time each year or two... This would make throwing away the bleeder pretty cheap overall.....
Hey Randy,
You've been out to Greg's place a bunch. You ever see evidence that he's ever thrown anything away???
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:53 AM
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Hey Randy,
You've been out to Greg's place a bunch. You ever see evidence that he's ever thrown anything away???
Don't tell anyone but, in actuality, I think Greg's place is just one small part of a secret experiment being conducted by Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. I'm only speculating here but, I think the research may have to do with creating artificial gravity wells for either space travel or some sort of fantastic weapon. My theory is based on the well known fact that if enough heavy stuff is placed in a small area, the localized gravity will change. While not significant individually, multiple artificial gravity wells properly configured in a large-scale array could have real potential. Nothing else can explain it. This secret research is being conducted in plain sight too! Look around, practically EVERY farm or ranch in Texas is like Greg's place — 'littered' tons and tons of 'cast-off' scrap steel. Nothing else can explain it!
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:55 AM
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Most brake fluid bottles are ok for roughly 3 psi, but tend to explode at the seams or pop the lid off at higher pressure.
This sounds a lot like the voice of experience that I hear in my head from time to time. Is there a story lurking here?
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:46 PM
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Bam

more violent than bump.
For new members who need help bleeding brakes.
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more violent than bump.
For new members who need help bleeding brakes.
No, Roy, BAM is what happens when new members don't properly read the posts on brake bleeding.
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Old 09-06-2006, 12:06 AM
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No, Roy, BAM is what happens when new members don't properly read the posts on brake bleeding.
Yup; like I said, Bam.
Hitting other objects because brakes fail to stop = Bam, Yup, yup yup...
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Master cyl. cap $6.97 (can you believe that? Pep Boys was $5.99)
So after much procrastination, finally decided to gather the parts and build this. The problem I ran into is this:

Local Autozone needs to special order the correct GM cap (according to the BMW site, 42035 1987-1990 GM). I'm assuming this is the correct cap unless otherwise noted.

I also have the Watts 1/4 ID Clear Vinyl tubing from Lowes for less than $2. On the label it clearly states "Use for: Low Pressure", Since JimmyL uses it, I'm assuming its fine.

I don't have any automotive grade silicone, but I do have some for aquarium use... will it work?

Hoping to bleed this weekend.
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:59 AM
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I have a question.
I have changed the fluid in two of my MB's and I used no bleeder at all.
I siphoned out the resivoir fluid, filled with clean fluid, had daughter keep resivoir full, and just opened the bleeders up. fluid flows quite nicely with no pressure at all.
is there something wrong with my MC that lets gravity flow out the fluid?
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Old 11-02-2006, 12:07 PM
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...I don't have any automotive grade silicone, but I do have some for aquarium use... will it work? ...
AFAIK, silicone-based glues and sealants are all pretty much the same. Make sure you allow the stuff to cure (overnight or more). Do a test, put some cured sealant in a little jar of brake fluid, see what happens (let us know).

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