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Old 03-20-2006, 11:07 AM
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W123 engine swap advice

Hi, I'm new here.

I recently purchased an '85 300D with a tired engine. I hoped that that it would get me by for a while. It didn't. Not being the sort of person to learn my lesson and cut my loses, I elected to double down. Now I have another '85 that was hit it the front end for parts.

The parts car supposedly has 200,000 miles on it. The radiator was busted and some parts already removed so I have not heard it run. I did a compression test with the following results.

#1 230 psi
#2 260
#3 310
#4 240
#5 270

I understand that these numbers are low and there is a large difference between the highest and lowest. This test was obviously done cold. The engine may not have been run in a couple years if that makes any difference.

The "good" car has zero rust (southern car), decent paint, fair but presentable interior and 240,000 miles on it. Everything works except the cruise control and power antenna, oh yeah... and that engine thingy.

I would like your opinions on the wisdom of doing and engine swap with this getting tired engine. Obviously there are no guarantees but how much life would you guess is left in it? If I thought it would last a couple years I would probably go that route rather than taking my chances on an $800 junk yard engine that may not be any better.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old 03-20-2006, 03:22 PM
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I'm no expert but those compression numbers seem low and the $800 price seems high. I would keep looking for a different engine.
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Old 03-20-2006, 05:42 PM
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you bought the second car right?

then before giving up on that motor i would try to get a radiator on it and start up and run it for a while with fresh oil. rig it to drive around if you can. then after getting it good and hot and such do the compression test. cant tell much from an engine that has been sitting so long.

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Old 03-20-2006, 05:44 PM
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Below 300psi is suspect, but they will run with care far below that. I would probably look at some others, but keep that one in reserve.
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:16 PM
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If those numbers were obtained by cranking the engine cold, which i assume they were, You might not be too bad off. Those low 200#s might show closer to 300 with a proper compression test with a warm engine.
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:56 AM
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I just bought a nice body 126 300SD with a junk motor & I had a parts car 123 with 320,000 miles on it & I thought the motor would be tired. After warming it up I found the compression to be 300 psi in every cylinder. Many people would be very gun shy about putting a engine with this many miles in but since Im doing it myself on slow days I did it & it runs GREAT!

If your doing the work yourself & you dont mind the work go for it. But I would not advise hiring out this work. Also dont get caught up in the trap of replaceing all these items just because "your in there anyways" If the motor mounts are still good leave them alone or take the better set from the 2 cars. Some like to buy $500-$1000 worth of new parts when doing this (ie oil cooler hoses, mounts, tranny lines, water pump,etc) Just replace what is bad if any. Although if the oil filter housing is leaking this is the time to do that.
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