Hey thanks forced.
I never knew any of the details to these things.. You seem to be able to answer a lot of my questions. So then this is a first for me. I've never, ever seen a 123, or any Mercedes diesel, for that matter any newer than a 79 without a turbo.
Now I won't look like such a Dumb a$$.
That's why I thought they never made them after 79 w/o turbo. It's gotta be really, really rare atleast.

the euros may have wood or not. some have black plastic in some of those places some have wood.

but woahhooaaa! it has 'GREAT LEG ROOM!'

better jump on it!

the 81 cd also had turbo.

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

ya gotta wonder why he bothered to put in the dark picture... you can tell it has a roof...
the only way that is a Euro is if it was ordered by American as an American car, but picked up in Germany, and self shipped to save import costs... still American, but could claim picked up in Europe... and misunderstood to be a Euro.
John

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

My 1984 AMG is a Euro and it has wood trim. Most Euros don't have the climate control, however.

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1989 500SEL Euro
1966 250SE Cabriolet
1958 BMW Isetta 600

Not rare at all. My 80 was non-turbo and lots of W124s are non-turbo.

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1987 300TD, 1987 300TD
2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon

I'm learning, so just keep debating guys. I don't have enough Mercedes knowledge to contribute more to this than I have, but maybe next time.

Not debating, just sharing some personal knowledge

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-justin

1987 300TD, 1987 300TD
2008 R32, 2000 Passat Wagon

European models were available with automatic climate control. Just not that particular version in 1980.

In fact-- European models were available with optioning in-line with North American market cars. It could be that this car is a highly optioned(and highly federalized) European model. It could also be a load of B.S. too.

Why's it matter so much that we need a "rag on this eBay car I saw" thread EVERY time there is a piece of crap car being misrepresented? If the car was nice, you'd all still bash it to pieces.

Can there not be a sticky thread so we don't have to comb through these every time we visit?

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30 mpg?... My engine must be broke.. I'm only getting 24ish

Really?

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'05 Acura TL 6MT
2001 ML430 My Spare

Gone:
'95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black
'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John

I asked for the VIN saying i needed to find out if my insurance would cover it. Also asked if he had a valid title.

Its defintely not a Euro. It has a federal VIN plate on the A pillar.

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1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

I also thought only the TD (not the CD) got a turbo in 81.

I can guarantee it

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

Speaking of Vin plates, does anyone know where I can get a book, or a diagram, of where every single vin tag/stamp is located on a 560 SEC. I'm looking at another one, but have a lot of suspiciouns about it authenticity, and originality. Are there any vins on the frame underneath?
Aside from the A pillar, radiator support, and door jamb, where else on the car will the vin, be located? I'm sure the windows aren't etched, so where else?

Some CD/D had turbo's and were called 81's. It depended on date of manufacter- not the year it was called. Most D/CD's called 81 were not turbo'd. Some "euro" w123 had wood- most did not. Remember that when you say "euro" you mean "non USA"- which means all the rest of the world; not just europe. In any case- who cares? If it's a euro it still has the same amount of HP, same tranny, same almost everything. In the end run it really makes no difference at all if it is a "euro" or a "japanese" or "brazillian" or "domestic" model.