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Old 11-24-2007, 09:33 AM
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Any universal with an allen socket should work, no need of a special tool.

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Old 11-24-2007, 12:28 PM
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Any universal with an allen socket should work, no need of a special tool.
Oh, I was just saying that I already have the special factory tool.
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:30 PM
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Its way easier on a W126....I replaced the one on my dad's car in about 2 hours start to finish, all from underneath. Easy. W126 rocks!
I did the SD in about one hour..............from the top..........it was a pleasure.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:12 AM
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Lightbulb Alternator/Starter/Motor rewinding shop

Lotsa times the battery cables or their connections are corroded and the starter is not getting any juice...Check, clean and tighten all four connections and give it another try. (May need to replace the cable) Pull the starter and run by the Oreilley's Auto parts for a testing and price check for a rebuilt or a new model. Then run by your local auto electric or an independent automotive starter and/or alternator repair shop for their opinion and a price.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprized...
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:15 AM
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I think the return spring for retracting the gear is getting sticky.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:10 AM
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This is always a fun time. Did mine (83) in San Diego on a roadtrip. MBshop bailed me out, haha. Do you detach the front right ball joint? Mine definitely took longer than an hour...like 6? maybe mas?
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:04 PM
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starter was replaced

So we took the starter out of the 82 240 and replaced it...you all were right, it was relatively easy, if awkward. We used no special tools at all, though I took pictures of the wiring before I undid it, just to be safe. Thanks ya'll.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:22 PM
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I think the return spring for retracting the gear is getting sticky.
I had a Mazda 626 where the starter was sticking, took it out, gave
it a shot of WD-40. ran good for the next 3 yrs.

don`t shoot me, this is before I learned of the joys of working on old
Mercedes. and belonging to a group of devoted warshipers of the Star.

And the joys of my first starter replacement. trying to install a federal
starter on my 85 Ca. no mater how hard I tried, it would not go .
that was a learning curve.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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Old 12-24-2007, 08:58 PM
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My dad helped me replace the starter today. We could barely get the bolts out even with the MB tool 1/2" drive. They were just really stuck. It took a little while.

We got side tracked. I wanted to take the downpipe out anyway and weld in a bung fitting for the pyrometer (EGT-sender) so we did that and some detailing.

Rebuilt starter is definately NICE! No more worries when on long trips!

Pictures to follow.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 12-25-2007, 12:24 PM
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I found that doing the 300d starters, its best to have an air ratchet swivel ,their heavier duty and dont have as much swivel angle play,when tring to apply muscle to that upper starter bolt youll understand the importance of less swivel action is much better.The angle of getting at the upper stater bolt is a bit location locked ,you will need an extension of about 3 ft ,not to mention the car as high as you can get it do to the wrenching .Best to have the passenger side jacked as high as you dare then block your wheels and pull the e - brake, not to mention a couple of jack stands. You will be at the back of the trannie when your going after that upper starter bolt with the 3 ft extension.Its not so bad when youve got this task under your belt a couple of times ,but for first timers on doing it ,it might be best to let a mechanic do it on a lift.As far as a 240d ,it sounds alot easier.
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Old 12-25-2007, 02:39 PM
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My dad and I have a car lift, so it wasnt too bad. The air ratchet is a good idea. Did you use a 1/2 in drive air ratchet? Now its done, I can wait 5 years before I have to deal with it again.
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 12-25-2007, 07:18 PM
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I had the starter replaced on the 300 sdl with an aftermarket rebuild, and it failed after a month or so, so I had a benz dealer do it at some phenominal cost, but at least it works.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:02 AM
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Ever look at www.mean-green.com starters. a little pricy, but I
understand they have a lot more torque.

Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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Old 12-27-2007, 12:54 AM
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Ever look at www.mean-green.com starters. a little pricy, but I
understand they have a lot more torque.

Charlie
My bosch rebuild seems pretty good, at $155, plus core exchange was pretty good.

$299 for the Mean Green, but has anyone done that yet?
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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:08 PM
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Rebuilt starter is definately NICE! No more worries when on long trips!

Pictures to follow.
I always got a ski pole in the trunk just in case I need to give it a whack, hahaha...skicurity

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