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Old 02-01-2008, 10:54 PM
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81 SD Fuel Problems

I looked at a car tonight that has a greasecar system installed.
It started right up and idled well and when it was up to temp it got switched to the VO and it purred. It seemed pretty decent.

We had to come back later to drive it.
The problem when driving was that it didn't have enough power to even keep it in 2nd gear. It stalled several times it seemed to have more power (though not real power) going downhill and lost power (I walk faster than we were going) uphill. We had the pedal to the floor and the car would get a bit faster and then lose it all.

We went out and bought new filters, both line and spin on, and it helped just a little. Maybe 10%. There was a small fuel leak that I seemed to fix by cranking down the primer pump. I doubt there was any real problem that was caused by the pump.

EDIT: The car has been sitting for 6 months and according to the owner drove fine last time her used it to make a round trip from Boulder to DIA (80 miles RT).
He seemed genuinely surprised and unhappy that it didn't run correctly.


What other fuel problems could there be?
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:15 PM
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Air

Air in the System.
In Idle a small amount of fuel is used so a small bit of air is not noticed. However when you put petal to the metal the air leaks starve the MB engine
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:39 PM
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Did you try switching the system back to diesel to see if it runs any better?
I'm not familiar with the greasecar system, but assuming it has a aftermarket filter somewhere, that may be plugged- especially after sitting for months.
Could be air restriction too- mice like to build nests in air cleaners...
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:43 PM
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Maybe water in the fuel?
It's been sitting with just less than half a tank of diesel for 6 months.

I told the owner to fill the tank with new fuel, add diesel dry and cetane booster and see if that helped.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:44 PM
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* Leaking fuel hose
* Algae/Sludge in fuel tanks
* Primer pump leaking
* Leaking pollack valve = the fuel switching valve

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Fuel Sender 85 300D- Cleaned (Pics)
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MB diesel filtration, how it works.
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fuel filter change
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=824006

Diesel filters, no tank strainers please.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1046422&posted=1

I'm baffled and at wit's end!?!?!?!?!
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Algae/Fungus fixation...
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240D fuel tank removal and cleaning
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Check out this fuel pickup screen
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300SD Fuel Filter Replacement Instructions
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Biobor, what is it, why do I need it???
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Algae Clogged Filter Pic StarTron WORKS !
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W123 Fuel Tank Screen Replacement
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:44 PM
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Did you try switching the system back to diesel to see if it runs any better?
I'm not familiar with the greasecar system, but assuming it has a aftermarket filter somewhere, that may be plugged- especially after sitting for months.
We actually didn't run it at all on the WVO. It hadn't gotten up to temp enough to switch over.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:58 PM
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We actually didn't run it at all on the WVO. It hadn't gotten up to temp enough to switch over.
OK.
You where running on the Diesel tank.

* Leaking fuel hose
* Primer pump leaking
* Algae/Sludge in fuel tanks, if it is in one = treat both.
* Leaking pollack valve = the fuel switching valve, this would need to be replaced with a better quality unit.

Look at these threads for the pictures.........................................

Filters, Fungus, Biocide, etc.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=823378

Algae Clogged Filter Pic StarTron WORKS !
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=138728

W123 Fuel Tank Screen Replacement
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=199206

Biobor, what is it, why do I need it???
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=723857

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