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Should I install "this" hitch on my diesel wagon?
I want to install a hitch to pull a trailer for hauling biodiesel and fire wood with my w123 wagon.
Here's the one I was thinking of buying: http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000366854/mediaCode-ZX/appId-10614520/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:10000036685410614520 If there are any better options out there, let me know. I think the 2,500 lb. limit would be fine. I also have a hitch mount bike rack that would work with the one I linked, although it has an adapter to use it with a 2" hitch too. Is a 1-1/4" square hitch adequate, or would there be advantages to having a 2" square hitch? I had a 2" square hitch on my Explorer, but I only ever used it for the bike rack. I know I'll need to add a brake light hookup for the trailer. I'm also thinking that when I install the hitch, the holes that will be drilled in the frame will be exposed metal. I was thinking of coating them with POR-15 before I attach the hitch.
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Chad 2013 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon OBK#44 "Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) SOLD 1985 300TD - Red Dragon 1986 300SDL - Coda 1991 - 300TE 1995 - E320 1985 300CD - Gladys 2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE 1998 Acura 3.0 CL |
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My dad's 4Runner has a 1-1/4" receiver, he pulls his boat fine, has one of those basket platform things that mounts to the receiver, puts a lawnmower and other stuff on there. The only difference between the two that he was looking at w250 lb tongue weight vs. 350 for the 2", and 2500 lbs towing vs. 3500 lbs for the 2". If those two meet your criteria, there shouldn't be any problems.
Have you looked at Cabellas? A friend just got one there for a volvo wagon for around 100 bucks.
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There is no frame on the 123 to which the hitch is bolted. I'm actually skeptical as to whether the advertised hitch will actually fit a wagon. It's hard to find hitches designed for it. Certainly, the one in the picture is not going to work. The hitches that work as far as I know are bolted both to the bumper and to the floor of the wagon. I'd want to see the precise installation instructions before purchasing. The smaller receiver should work fine.
I have a simple generic bumper hitch on my wagon and I've had no problems with it pulling lightweight trailers. I have seen a wagon with a bumper hitch and a cracked bumper, probably from too high a tongue weight.
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There's no frame back there to attach that hitch to. You really want something that is specifically designed for the 123 wagon. They're out there - just kind of expensive since they are a low volume item.
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Here's one for a 1985 300TD:
300TD hitch
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Nice price, have it here too, free shipping if you need other car parts too:
http://www.***********************/search/?Ntt=Valley+Hitch+V1158700&apwcid=A1154013966W44c8db0e4c70a&apwkwd=Valley+Hitch+V1158700&AID=10273828&PID=1869786&SID=-3e74a096-119d8e77833--354e
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I installed the Curt hitch (#11805) on my wagon just last week. It attaches to the body between the bumper and the frame - they supply some heftier bolts to replace the ones that hold the bumper on.
It's a massive pain in the butt; the bolts are as bit bigger than the stock ones and you will probably have to dill the holes out a bit bigger (I did). This was compounded by the fact that the bolts (welded together in pairs to a steel plate) weren't exactly parallel; I had to hammer the plate a bit to straighten them out so they'd align properly with the holes. Getting the new bolts in place on the passenger side is practically impossible - you have to reach through the rear windshield washer well and twist your fingers through a small hole under there to reach the holes the bolts go through. I barely managed it after 40 minutes of cursing ![]() There's also an additional bar on the right and left sides that attach the hitch to the underbody (you have to drill holes through the floor of the spare tire well on the driver's side and the rear windshield washer well on the other) but I don't plan on pulling anything heavy so I left those off. All in all it seems pretty solid. I haven't used it yet but I don't envision any problems. Once you get past the painful installation process it looks pretty sweet.
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My '84 Euro 300TD came with a German trailer hitch. Ball, arm and cross bar is a one-piece welded unit, and it's attached at the holes where the US bumper shocks would go if the car had a US rear bumper, and bolted to the studs that would normally fasten the US bumper shocks. It looks like my Euro bumper is, in turn, bolted to the hitch. There are no other reinforcements. Dont know the weight rating but the hitch booklet (in German) is with the car's papers. I'll check later.
Happy Motoring, Mark
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Thanks, I appreciate everyones advice. ![]()
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The height on the insert hole on the Curt seems to be about 12" off the ground. I'd think you'd need about a 2" drop insert installed upside down to bring the ball height up to the level of the bumper. The center of the hitch ball should be in the exact center of the mounts to relieve any tendency to flex as Mark said. This is especially important since the hitch is mounted in sheet metal and slight flexing will eventually weaken it and cause it to crack.
Something like this: http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ItemBrowse/c-10101/s-10101/p-100000328517/mediaCode-ZX/appId-100000328517/Pr-p_CATENTRY_ID:100000328517
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I had some JBW plugs in mine, too. You prolly noticed that I reused the stock mbz turnout. all I had to buy was the muffler and 2x 3"x 2 1/2" reducers. i used my portable bandsaw to make a bunch of miter cuts to route the exhaust lower and out the side. lots of fit, weld, fit, cut, weld and such, but I did it all myself
![]() Also- I did take a bunch of pics of the mounts w/ measurements if anyone feels ambitious enough to go the homemade route on a TD hitch.... for $185, delivered(twice) I could not have done it myself......
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I don't think I'm feeling ambitious enough to build the hitch from scratch ... although it would help justify a welder purchase.
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Chad 2013 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon OBK#44 "Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) SOLD 1985 300TD - Red Dragon 1986 300SDL - Coda 1991 - 300TE 1995 - E320 1985 300CD - Gladys 2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE 1998 Acura 3.0 CL |
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OT- I see great deals on welders @ the local tool re-sellers/ pawn shops all the time... If I didnt have what I got now, I just passed on a hobart 140(110v, MIG) for under $250. beats the hell out of them chinese crap buzz box's @ HF, HD, etc.......
but the price of steel has to taken into account, and the liability of building your own... but I think that's the only way to get a 2" receiver tube. also - FWIW- curt and da'lan are the same company, so if you see any other hitches elsewhere, they are the same. JCW is the best price I know of( by 50% off some others for the same thing), and free shipping, too.
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1984 123.193 372,xxx miles, room for Seven. 1999 Dodge Durango Cummins 4BTAA 47RE 5k lb 4x4 getting 25+mpgs, room for Seven. |
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I'm going to hope that your first welding experience isn't going to be making something like this....
Or that you take some classes and include this as a class project.
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