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Old 11-13-2008, 04:47 PM
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80 300 SD 116 body style My power steering is sometimes hard to operate. Checked fluid level, its ok. fluid seems to be a rather black color.
would like to put in fresh fluid. Is there an easy way to drain all the old fluid off without disconnecting hoses etc.?? Thanks

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Old 11-13-2008, 05:33 PM
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If the fluid is black its long overdue for new fluid and a filter.

The easiest way without removing hoses is to remove the belt, suck all the old fluid out, turn the pump by hand and keep sucking dirty fluid out and adding a little clean fluid until it comes out clean.

http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=M2000-97891&itempk=50272&mfr=Mann-Filter&weight=0.10
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:36 PM
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I just took off the return hose (the fatter one that attaches into the fluid tank) and then started the car. I had the hose stuck in a bucket and while my wife turned the wheel from lock to lock I poured in fresh fluid until the fluid coming out of the hose was clean.
Once the fluid was changed, I dropped in the new filter, reattached the hose and then did a couple lock to lock turns of the wheel to eliminate any air.

Took maybe five minutes.
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I just took off the return hose (the fatter one that attaches into the fluid tank) and then started the car. I had the hose stuck in a bucket and while my wife turned the wheel from lock to lock I poured in fresh fluid until the fluid coming out of the hose was clean.
Once the fluid was changed, I dropped in the new filter, reattached the hose and then did a couple lock to lock turns of the wheel to eliminate any air.

Took maybe five minutes.
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Did the same thing except used a fluid evacuator instead of a bucket.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:08 PM
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Doing the "start and flush" method can turn into quite an operation, at least on my car the fluid was pumped through very quickly, and I ended up making a bit of a mess.

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I just did the flush and fill on my 1979 300SD's power steering and replaced the filter and return hose (used Redline Synthetic PS fluid, only $9 a quart). I have been wondering, though, if it's okay to pump out all of the fluid--or if this would damage the pump. I went through a gallon of Valvoline power steering fluid in less than 10 seconds when I did the flush and had my helper shut it off as soon as the fluid was out of the pump--it made a metallic noise for a split second before the engine was shut off.
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Just like a Transmission,Power Steering Pumps frown on attempts to be run
"DRY" (without fluid at correct levels).
Let's hope you didn't irritate the Pump!
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This did not seem to be mentioned in any previous posts, just "run it until all fluid is out of the system" which would lead a person to believe to run it completely dry. I actually had my helper shut it off before all the fluid left the pump, and it was right at the last moment as the engine was stopping that I heard a squeak that sounded like there was no more fluid in there. Also, 2 gallons are probably needed to fully flush the system, as it will go through a gallon in about 8 seconds, almost faster than can be poured in.
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:59 AM
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If the fluid is black its long overdue for new fluid and a filter.

The easiest way without removing hoses is to remove the belt, suck all the old fluid out, turn the pump by hand and keep sucking dirty fluid out and adding a little clean fluid until it comes out clean.

http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=M2000-97891&itempk=50272&mfr=Mann-Filter&weight=0.10
So what your saying is to do the same thing as the "start the engine and get ready for a gusher" method. Except without the gusher and you can do it w/o an assistant but you have to remove the belt and turn the pump by hand. Sounds less exciting Think I'll try it.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:33 AM
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Right but I forgot to add that the front end should be lifted off the ground so the gearbox can be turned lock to lock.
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That sounds like the best way if you have the time, but no assistant. I think what stops most folks from doing it that way is , its such a PIA to get the belt off and back on
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I just flushed my power steering fluid, but what I did seems simpler...What do you think?

I got the front wheels off the ground and disconnected the low pressure hose. It leaked a bit of fluid of of the reservoir before I could catch it. I put a pinky finger from a nitrile glove with a zip tie around it to stop the flow.

then I simply turned the wheel and added fluid. it quickly filled up a gallon jug that I had in the washer fluid res. area with the hose sticking into.

Is having the pump moving critical for a complete flush?

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