Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-17-2009, 02:53 PM
oldsinner111's Avatar
lied to for years
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elizabethton, TN
Posts: 6,250
cracked steering couplings

W126 owners.What are anyones thoughts on the two steering couplings.One under the hood,and one inside.With cracked rubber like flex disks.

__________________
1999 w140, quit voting to old, and to old to fight, a god damned veteran
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-17-2009, 03:41 PM
DeliveryValve's Avatar
Chairman of my Benz
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 4,159
Replace them. Your life depends on them.
__________________
1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-17-2009, 03:43 PM
winmutt's Avatar
85 300D 4spd+tow+h4
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atl Gawga
Posts: 9,346
Its going to add slop. DV, why would your life depend? Something specific to 126?
__________________
http://superturbodiesel.com/images/sig.04.10.jpg
1995 E420 Schwarz
1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-17-2009, 03:44 PM
oldsinner111's Avatar
lied to for years
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elizabethton, TN
Posts: 6,250
I think I will weld it solid.$80. each ouch.I like to feel the road.
__________________
1999 w140, quit voting to old, and to old to fight, a god damned veteran
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-17-2009, 04:04 PM
DeliveryValve's Avatar
Chairman of my Benz
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 4,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by winmutt View Post
Its going to add slop. DV, why would your life depend? Something specific to 126?
Why? It is a coupling joint and if there is a crack, it will weaken the joint and could split in pieces. Thus no steering control. Just like a flex disk on the drive shaft. Holds true with all steering assemblies with rubber flex disk type couplings.

New Disk


cracked disk (image provided by whunter)
Attached Thumbnails
cracked steering couplings-w01331610812oes.jpg  
__________________
1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-17-2009, 04:16 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 15,438
It might crack but due to the way its mounted you'd never "fully lose" control.....I think its main purpose is for in an accident....it allows the steering to break apart and not ram the column up your chest.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-17-2009, 04:28 PM
DeliveryValve's Avatar
Chairman of my Benz
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 4,159
Quote:
Originally Posted by pawoSD View Post
It might crack but due to the way its mounted you'd never "fully lose" control.......
OK, I am not following here. Explain to me how it is mounted? I just cannot see if one is completely shattered, how you never fully lose control.
__________________
1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-17-2009, 04:55 PM
Actros617's Avatar
Ich fahre dieseltypen
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,141
The purpose of the flex disk for the steering wheel is to prevent any vibration or any road feeling and to break in the event of a crash as pawoSD said, Now if that thing breaks you'll have not steering because, there is 2 ends one end is the steering wheel and the other is the steering box and the flex disk joins the 2 together, so.. IF the rubber break you'll be turning the steering wheel but not the steering box hence so steering...
__________________
Current Garage
2008 Mercedes GL320 CDI 188k mi Repair/Work in progress
1994 S350 160k mi Garage Queen & prepping for repairs
2005 E320 CDI 203k mi Healthy & Daily Driver
1994 S350 357k mi Retried as parts car
1984 300TD 214k mi Blown OM617 Poss OM603 Swap??

Sold
1987 300SDL 200K+
1994 S320 181K mi
2008 E320 Bluetec 127k mi
1999 S420 130K mi
1980 240D 360k mi
15+ Others that has come, stay and gone

GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN
1995 E320 SE 220k mi
1984 300SD 350k mi
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-17-2009, 08:49 PM
Registered Hack
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,642
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeliveryValve View Post
Replace them. Your life depends on them.

your life DOES depend on them.

Sinner, If you can find a junkyard with the right model: There are two of these couplings on the steering column - take the one in the cabin. It will be just like new. Replace your old one with the interior one. (this applies to w123, I am not certain about the 126)
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-17-2009, 08:50 PM
Registered Hack
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,642
Quote:
Originally Posted by Actros617 View Post
The purpose of the flex disk for the steering wheel is to prevent any vibration or any road feeling and to break in the event of a crash as pawoSD said, Now if that thing breaks you'll have not steering because, there is 2 ends one end is the steering wheel and the other is the steering box and the flex disk joins the 2 together, so.. IF the rubber break you'll be turning the steering wheel but not the steering box hence so steering...

there is flexible section of the shaft that is the main component in this theory. Not the couplings.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-17-2009, 10:09 PM
oldsinner111's Avatar
lied to for years
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elizabethton, TN
Posts: 6,250
I'm going to wrap them with glass,and resin them.
__________________
1999 w140, quit voting to old, and to old to fight, a god damned veteran
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-17-2009, 10:42 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 15,438
The metal pins that go into the rubber are aligned such that if the rubber failed it'd cause a lot of slop in the steering, but you'd likely still be able to control it somewhat (since those pins would hit/push each other)....not that I'd want to experience that.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-18-2009, 01:27 AM
DeliveryValve's Avatar
Chairman of my Benz
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Central California
Posts: 4,159
^^^ I don't think so.


Here is a steering coupling that I snipped a little here and there.....



This is what could happen...... I don't think the pins would save you.

Attached Thumbnails
cracked steering couplings-steeringcoupling1.jpg   cracked steering couplings-steeringcoupling2.jpg   cracked steering couplings-steeringcoupling3.jpg  
__________________
1983 123.133 California
- GreaseCar Veg System


Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-18-2009, 01:34 AM
Registered Hack
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,642
Quote:
Originally Posted by pawoSD View Post
The metal pins that go into the rubber are aligned such that if the rubber failed it'd cause a lot of slop in the steering, but you'd likely still be able to control it somewhat (since those pins would hit/push each other)....not that I'd want to experience that.

they will slip past each other.

radial movement is not prohibited at this juncture. The flexible section does not provide sufficient stiffness to rely on their alignment.


Nice pics, DV
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-18-2009, 07:51 AM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 15,438
Quote:
Originally Posted by jt20 View Post
they will slip past each other.

radial movement is not prohibited at this juncture. The flexible section does not provide sufficient stiffness to rely on their alignment.


Nice pics, DV
Thats true.... I take back what I said. Replace them!

__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page